How about we ALL post our stories of how we have been snookered by someone in the Studebaker community? Would this lead to too much mud slinging?Too much ill will?? Could it save one of us some grief??? What do you think? If the general consensus is this is a bad idea,I can respect that. I am NOT trolling with this post! But I would like to know who is a stand up guy and who is a horses azz. And I am not talking about personality conflicts,but actual buisness dealings that have gone south for whatever reason. I leave it to our community for discussion.
Why would you even want to do this... how about you ask about specific vendors you're dealing with. I have seen it done in other forums, but to start asking people to bash other members is completely idiotic. If you ask about a specific member, what happens if you get 10 responses back 8 positive and 2 negative. Would you deal with this member? Take your chances, if you don't feel comfortable don't deal with the person, stick with Paypal or credit card payments that can be disputed.
I'm all for that idea. If a guy is a scumbag, the world should know about him. If you've been burned by a scumbag, it is your obligation to tell all of us who he is. I am assuming that the culprit has been given ample opportunity to set things right before you F** him up!!
If TW is involved, you can ask the person who volunteered to try to resolve disputes. I don't know idf it's possible to check beforehand to see if someone you are thinking of using has a good record with TW or not.
It might be worthwhile contacting a freind in the local chapter of anyone you are think9ng of using, too. Remember, sometimes people her what they want to hear when discussing a sought-after item, too.
OK,in hindsight I can see this might have not been a good idea. Having been down the same road,I wondered if this was the same people causing others grief.I SURE DO NOT want to muck up this NG. Having been around since the days of "black helicopters" and such,I have noticed a decline in the NG,which is disheartening.Like I said,this was not a troll post,I just had the thought if we all knew who was scammin,we all could avoid the buttmunch and the associated aggravation. So how about instead of posting NEGATIVE stories,we post POSITIVE stories of who of the private/evil vendors have done right by us? And if certain names do not show up in the positive posts,you might get the hint they are one of "them". Any better of an idea??
On Nov 7, 6:12 pm, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:
Here is the bottom line. We have all worked with good folks and bad folks over the years in the Studeclub. I think we can all agree on people who are easy to get along with and those who are not within our club. Those who are arrogant better than thou shmucks and those who are down to earth and real. Those who are condescending dic&weeds and those who would drive 50 miles out to nowhere and help you tow your broken down stude home. I personally have I have had to deal with more than my share of weirdos, jerks and cantankerous old bastards in this club over the last 25 years. Anywhere ya go in life I you're gonna meet people ya just don't like and who don't like you...I know from personal experience I met folks who probably thought I was a pretty-boy-arrogant-loud mouth and I thought they were just good old- fashioned-toothless-white-trashbag-no-social gracing-A$$Hoes. Would we have a beer with each other on a Friday night at the meet....Hell No...point is we are all different and all human and just misunderstand each other quite often or just don't chemically jive, but hey we'll leave this to our shrinks and get down to slagging people in the club....Do I do it...Yes, with my girl....with others, NO, unless the person I am venting to is a good friend of mine that I've known for a long time and we both agree the person is a cluster of an asshole. Strange how often, it is unanimous and people all agree to who the jerk is, ocassionally and more often than not, not everyone agress on who the buttheads are.. Now, I have good buds in the club who have loved a particular person they bought a part from and I hated the guy....we had different experiences and very different types of a rappport with that person.....and so the world keeps turning.....But to PUBLICLY rag on a person because you don't like them....just don't take our club down that road....we have always been known to be the kind of club that needed to stick together more so than other clubs just due to the scarcity of parts.....still there are some exceptions.....if you've ever been done wrong and under a few circumstanes:
Your are the buyer.
You buy a part and it is substandard, misrepresented, not what you ordered or simply didn't arrive in a timely ( ie within a month) manner and
The person who sold it to you won't replace the part for like, won't refund your money or never contacts you back after your repeated attempts to contact them when your part has not arrived then I think it is fair game that after a month, crucify the bastard...... You are the seller:
You send part but receive no payment (check bounces) and buyer makes no attempt to rectify.
You sell a used part and buyer breaks yer B*&LLS cause they expected a new part when both of you know what you agreed upon. Then crucify the bastard.
Point is where does subjective personal dislike end and bad business practice begin and vice versa? Thats a hard one to pinpoint. Opinions are like A$$hoes...everyone's got one and they are SUBJECTIVE. That is why you don't publicly crucify bad apples, you take their asses to court just on principal, even if they screwed you over on a 50 cent part. If I feel someone is taking me I'll spend
1000 bucks in court just on principal alone then I will advertise the decision in the TW. When you do this, you make their life so miserable they'll wish they never did business with you. In the end, they'll think twice about repeating their abberant behaviour with anyone else. If this doesn't work, you steal their hubcaps at the next meet and keep on doing it until they quit and join the Chevy club. My 2cents.....
Thanks to the liberal left, we have a problem in this country with people being held accountable for their actions. Left unchecked,as it has, look what a mess things are. What else may this individual do and get away with? Who else might he pull this crap on? Holding this individual accountable is the right thing to do. Speaking up about this sort of thing is the only way we're ever going to even start fixing our problems.
Yes, everything is the fault of the liberals. I'm sure glad they are not in power to lie us into a war and spend us into bankruptcy, and ruin our worldwide reputation. The dollar has lost 30% of it's value in the last 6 years.
Champ you have a Champion of an idea there. Everyone has a chance to say something positive about someone else. I can start this off.
All of us have dealt with Ted Harbit at one time or the other. I don't ever remember anything bad being said about him. Well, to my opinion Ted did us all a favor again when he sold his business to Phil. Phil continues to carry the same Flag that Ted did . Thanks Ted for picking someone as good to work with as you were.
This is NOT a swap page. This is an unmoderated looney bin. Post a thread about anything, and watch it morph magically into one of five subjects (politics', religion, economics, immigration, and taxes) that tickle the fancy of a certain few. (I can say this as I have, at times, been guilty of it too, and a moderated forum makes little difference).
Personally? I think it would be better if one were to get screwed on a deal to just say so here..... But tell the readers to contact you via private e-mail if they want the details. Slamming a particular person on an unmoderated (or moderated) newsgroup (read that 'in public') might open you up to some kind of legal action.
I don't see the point of stirring up trouble. This group has a hard enough time staying on the topic as it is, let alone providing a thread designed just to bash people. I too would like to be warned about folks that are potentially poor folks to deal with, but I don't see listing them is a great idea. If I need specific information about someone I'll ask.
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