Do all 4 tires need to be replaced when just 1 goes bad?

Mar 30, 2007 28 Replies

You are talking about an "open" center differential. That doesn't work at all for AWD or 4WD. One tire (any corner) spinning will take *ALL* torque, leaving the rest powerless. Not only that, that damned wheel will spin 4 times faster than normal.

This comes up here or in a coupla other soob forums 2-3 times a year. No one seems to be able to find a benefit to keepimg an otherwise 'normal' soob in FWD mode. You still haul the same weight and have the same frictional losses.

Carl

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Carl

No one is saying there's a problem. ALL (as far as I know) AWD systems (and 4WD systems when 'engaged')have the potential to incur damage when 'torque bind' forces develop in the drivetrain while operated on dry (non-slip) pavement-type surfaces. The problem can be more/less severe depending on many different factors.

When you turn - I suppose there could be a slight inclination for the center diff to detect rotational difference front-rear and engage a little. But that issue will go away quickly. BUT, if you have a smaller sized tire on one axle, the CD detects slippage CONSTANTLY - even moving straight down the highway (this is probably the most damaging actually, surface roads with lots of turns and a little gravel, leaves, trash in the gutters MAY present opportunities for 'torque bind' to be relieved with a little tire slippage occasionally) and there is no opportunity for the torque bund to be relased, as could happen on a dirt, gravel, mud or snow covered road.

I have heard of old 4WD vehicles left locked and getting so bound up when someone tried to parallel park they became immovable, a jack had to be employed to release the drivetrain!

Carl

At least with the 4EAT systems, I don't think there's a "center differential" per se. However - I read a few Endwrench articles that attempt to describe the system. The part I did understand is that the speed of the front and rear driveshafts are constantly monitored and torque distribution adjusted as needed.

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You're right, it is an adjustable wet clutch pack I guess - functions like a variable center diff but bears no mechanical resemblance to a 'real' differential.

Carl

Except maybe in FWD mode then I don't have to replace the older rear tires because they are probably less in circumference than the new front tires. I'd like to procrastinate as to when I need to buy the 2 rears until maybe I feel more comfortable buying all four.

I understand - here's a link to a very long, exhaustive thread about the issue;

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Carl

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