tirelessly producing junk

sucks:

Guess they are going after a different market now. Disappointing, as I thought the STi would be the more Evo-like of the WRX/STi pair. The Evo is certainly the better-looking of the pair, that's for sure!

Dan D '99 Impreza 2.5 RS (son's) Central NJ USA

I would think, being smaller and lighter (with a bigger block, no less), it would make some impressive numbers against the EVO. I think the computer is pretty cool, and the interior is a bit better, the EVO definitely made some serious strides this time. The EVO still looks like a galant, that's just me.

I have an 06 STi, and I still say the only subies I ever found sexy were the first generations.

-John

Dano58 wrote:

sucks:

And now, finally, there is a car for people who can't decide between an EVO and a BMW 328/335: they can have a car that combines the worst features of both: lacking the driving dynamics of evo and lacking the refinement of the bmw. A blunt tool with a refinement in between.

I wonder how would the cheaper, castrated GSR (no yaw control) would compare to the newly castrated rex.

Hmmm, Test drove Mazda Speed3?

Rrrrright. The evil mitsu/chrysler paid big bucks to all publications to that they load bricks into the mitsubishi trunk for the ease of rotation. Which part of "understeer" you don't understand? You must be a lawyer or politician to think anything about the car dynamics is subjective. You can easily rotate mitsu and you can't do so in STI. Kapisch?

Tony Hwang mused:

I'm not in a mood for another front wheel driver no matter how frisky, but I'd imagine that car is gobs of fun. Still, you got rex over mazdaspeed3 for your son, didn't you? That won't have anything to do with the winter traction where you live, would it?

Hi, Two reasons I had to stay with Subie. AWD and seating. Seating for driver is really uncomfie on Speed3. Copared to old Impreza we had this WRX handles much better. As an after thought, I think we souped up suspension on that old car way too much. Learning process I guess.

They should probably have tested with the same tires. Plus, the STI was faster 0-80. They also said it was a better daily driver.

To me, the bigger issue was the price difference! massive!

What ever happened to 'Subaru - Inexpensive And Built To Stay That Way' ?

Carl

Oh? Last time I started RE070 thread people on this ng were screaming at the top of their lungs it's the best summer tire ever.

I don't see how vague steering would make it so. .5 extra liter = better low end? that part makes it a better driver?

Evo MR is also $36k and GSR at 33k is not much cheaper. Are you referring to the IX RS that you could've had for about $27k? I don't think that trim is offered any longer.

What do you mean? I'd expect STI to stay together better than EVO. I there something I'm missing?

Can you spin the wheels on Speed3 from the dead stop? What was specifically the problem with the seats?

Um, did you read the article? Look at the charts?

price as tested - STI was nearly $6K more!!!

Yokohama vs Dunlop tires.

STI; better mileage, longer range, better braking, more headroom, more legroom, almost 3 TIMES cargo capacity.

Not 'junk' - just a little lower performance in 2-3 specific areas.(and overpriced)

Carl

I thought you were a Honda hater. I see now you're just basically a troll. What the hell *DO* you like? Sand pounded where the sun don't shine?

Within Subaru line now that 08 wrx is out I have developed an irrational liking of