41 MPG city Fusion Hybrid more efficient than Camry Hybrid's 33 MPG (2025 Update)

Jan 10, 2009 Last reply: 8 months ago 46 Replies

So who still wants a Prius?



"The hybrid system for the Fusion and Milan hybrids supports operation in all-electric mode at speeds of up to 47 mph; a smaller, lighter NiMH high-volt battery has greater charge capacity and range than the previous generation battery. The hybrids have a range of more than 700 miles of city driving on a single tank of gas."



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"With those numbers, the Fusion Hybrid will be America's most fuel efficient mid-size car, topping its chief competitor -- the Toyota Camry Hybrid -- by 8 mpg in the city and 2 mpg on the highway."



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Me. It's a proven winner; until other vehicles hit its level of high marks from owners, I want a Prius.

Cathy

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If someone gave me one of those pregnant roller skates I'd give it back.

It was a false rumour that Priuses have a built in vibrator.

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Actually the Fusion was a Ford designed chassis, first used by Mazda.

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The hype is great, then there is reality. The prius is proven the ford is not.

They're the leading cause of smug, you know. ;)

Derek

According to the latest Car & Driver's real-world testing of four mid-sized hybrids: Chevrolet Malibu, Nissan Altima, Ford Fusion, and Toyota Camry, the Ford Fusion did produce the best overall fuel economy.

You're in luck, there are plenty of Prii at the dealers...

SL

Hi All: Have a friend with a 96 TownCar with a 4.6. Cylinder three is way down on compression and it looks to be a valve issue as oil test doesn't raise his numbers.

He has taken it to three places who have all told him it is cheaper and easier to just replace the engine. Problem is this is a low mileage car with an otherwise great engine. To me it just doesn't make sense to junk a low mileage engine for a "god only knows what your are getting" junk yard replacement.

Is there something about the 4.6 that makes it so difficult to just pull the bad head and have it reworked?

Steve B.

AC does not decrease mileage in a Prius except if you are sitting in traffic and the batteries are not recharging due to driving.

I get 50-53 highway too. Tomes

It's just a matter of access to the bolts, especially on the exhaust manifold. On a town car I don't see how that would be an issue.

It may be worth pulling the cam cover and chacking for a dislodged cam follower (rocker lever that ain't). They have been known to drop out of position after sitting for an extended period. They drop before the oil pressure is up in the lash adjuster. If that is the cause, it can be put back in place using the special valve spring compression tool. Probably never be a problem again if the oil is changed using the correct oil and a good filter. That right side cover is not bad to get off if you have a good flex extension of some sort in 1/4" drive to get the lower rear bolts. It is a bit tight there.

Lugnut

I agree with both of you. It _is_ cheaper and easier to replace the engine. But sometimes cheaper and easier isn't better.

If the car is owned by the original owner, and he knows that it was broken in properly, I think it's worth the money to fix the engine. Thing is, most people today don't actually fix engines. You are going to need to find a racing shop that actually does engine work, rather than a shop that specializes in swapping out engines. And you may wind up paying more than you would have for a cheap rebuild. But I think you're better off.

Yes, but it's the same thing with all engines today. Engines are cheap and labour is expensive.

--scott

Even at $5 a gallon, gas is a minor budgetary expense for me--groceries are much more important to us. So I couldn't care less about gas mileage--I care about PERFORMANCE.

What powers it then?

Have you checked it with and without A/C?

Yea well, another consideration has to be my 09 VW Jetta diesel... greenest diesel on the planet, and regularly delivers 45-50 mpg on the highway, with a total cost of $25K, plus a $1300 tax credit.

so there really ARE alternatives to the hybrid, and it's a true joy to drive. It's FUN... you DRIVE it, it's not an appliance.

Wes

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