Pinging 1.5 litre

Hello,

I recently bought a Mitsubishi Mirage (not sure what this would called in US, if available) - a 3 door hatch with a 1.5L 69kW engine, weighing about 990kg. It sounds to me like the car is pinging under quite a quite light loads. Examples - maintaining 50km/h in third climbing a gentle slope onto a freeway, accelerating from 80km/h in

4th at not faster then 2-3km/h/sec on flat. I've asked the dealer to look into this once, and they retarded the timing a bit (but still within spec) and suggested that perhaps the fuel might be under spec. Mirages (along with the Lancers, which are non-hatchback versions of same) don't have knock sensors so an occasional ping, or pinging under a heavy load (going up a steep hill in 4th at 30km/h, or trying to drag off a V8 from the lights) might be expected. But I don't think I'm doing anything that should cause pinging in the car. I'm never any where near flooring the accelerator. The pinging isn't loud - hard to hear if radio is on, or windows are up.

I've was using premium unleaded (supposedly 94 RON - cars requires 91 RON), but in case it was the fuel I've been topping up with 98RON from a different service station. Am waiting for tank to empty so I can fill with 98RON from scratch, just in case. While it's possible the

94 RON wasn't really that, I'd think I had a bit of a buffer there, since the car only needs 91.

But my question is - in a new car (shouldn't be any carbon buildup - now 2200km), should I be hearing pinging under the conditions similar to those above? I really don't think I should be stressing a 1.5 litre, but I haven't driven such a small engined car. Under what sort of conditions would pinging be normal? When I go back to the dealer I just want to be confident that there really is a problem.

Thanks, Neil

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NSF
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well I am pretty sure a little pinging from a four cylinder is completely normal..I actually drive around in my mustang a lot with the windows down, and I hear the pinging from mostly smaller cars with small engines...maybe teh dealership did not retard it much enough...

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FuzionMan

If it's got an EGR valve on it, it might not be functioning properly..

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Robert Hancock

I second that. I chased pinging on my Corolla for the longest time. Tried everything (almost) under the sun to try and fix it with no luck. Finally, I decided to pull the head off (I was bored ) and noticed the EGR passages in the intake manifold were all gunked up, so much so that the EGR valve was effectively disabled. So after a bit of sea foam, a drill and some rags, I got it pretty clean. Slapped the back on and WOW, what a difference!

The nice thing about the experience is that I've developed an excellent ear for ping.

-Tim

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Tim H.

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