Root cause insight into the common BMW blower motor resistor failures

Yawn. I don't have access to any defective modules. I don't know anyone at the local BMW dealership to ask for failed units and I'm not going to buy a new module to destroy for a whiny piss ant like you.

You can't even crawl.

Then tell them to reverse engineer it for you. Or can't they 'walk the talk', either?

And you couldn't so you piss and moan. I couldn't remember their name, since I hadn't seen one of their print ads for over 20 years. I looked them up, when I did.

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Michael A. Terrell
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i don't know who you think you're talking to, but i have consistently advocated /not/ deconstructing this unit. it's not worth it when cost of replacement isn't that high or you can build an alternate controller that will be more reliable.

at least i can follow a thread without being a crotchety old fart.

i don't /want/ to reverse engineer it any more than i want to repair broken light bulbs. you were the one bragging about how easy it was. i said it wasn't. and when it comes down to walking the talk, you won't.

i guess we should be grateful...

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jim beam

Apparently I'm talking to a blowhard troll.

Ass. The first step in designing a replacement is to understand what it is supposed to do, and how the original performed that function.

Show us.

Send me some defective modules, or quit trolling.

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Michael A. Terrell

This does not count the hazardous issue of the soldering failing, causing hazards to the users of the equipment :-(

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Leif Neland

That's why there are exemptions for the military and telecom industry, where it's actually important that stuff work properly.

What I find ironic is that the shorter lifespan of consumer gear caused by the RoHS manufacturing has actually increased the amount of electronics going into landfills, making worse the problem that it was intended to reduce.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

Most of the people on the BMW forums think it's one of these.

Reply to
Bimmer Owner

Other people have suggested this also.

Some say the potting is what is causing the stress cracks.

Re-insert without potting, is the "said to be" solution.

One question: If the FSU works without potting, what was the purpose of the potting?

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Bimmer Owner

Good catch!

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Bimmer Owner

I will try this morning. (I was away on a trip for the past two days).

PS: Had to look up araldite:

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Bimmer Owner

The red jumper was a hack added by one user to fix the solder cracks, I think.

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Bimmer Owner

This implies two transistors (although I only found one).

I will dig through the mess again - but I think I was too fat thumbed when I cut it open, and may have destroyed the evidence.

I do have a second FSU (since two failed on me) though ... but I want to try to FIX that one (instead of destroying it).

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Bimmer Owner

I wasn't sure how to cross reference using that list. For example, it had only one BMW entry (camera module); and it did not have GKR or Sitronic or Valeo brands; nor the keywords FSU, nor FSR; but it did have things titled "blower motor controller), e.g.,

FORD F50F-19E624 heater blower motor controller ('97 L. CONNIE) 1

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Bimmer Owner

Regarding cost, it seems we can get aftermarket parts for about $100; and the part at the BMW dealership cost about $175.

Regarding repair, some have intimated that unpotting and resoldering is a solution.

If that's true, then that might be a viable "fix".

However, I must ask: If it works without potting, and especially if the potting is what's causing the problem, then what was the original purpose of the potting in the first place?

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Bimmer Owner

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>> that at least is vaguely useful >

maybe it's similar, maybe it's not. the fact that each of the different unit manufacturers has different internals and that they've changed over time doesn't help you.

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jim beam

no???? really? are you /sure/ about that??? or doesn't sarcasm work for you???

no, you're doing that.

they're not my modules [again, you're not following the thread] and i wouldn't replace them - i'd pwm the motor instead.

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jim beam

dude, give up on that already. you'll never get good thermal contact second time around.

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jim beam

to keep the elements out. and the inquisitive.

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jim beam

and yet, some say that there can be increased reliability.

btw, if you want /real/ reliability, you wire wrap.

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jim beam

that's bogus. unless there's been a MAJOR screw-up, potting compounds are carefully matched to the thermal and chemical application - they serve to increase reliability, not degrade it.

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jim beam

I am aware of that. It looks like it ties the two collectors together. But does it go to the contact that connects to the fuse? The main point is "do the collectors (center pin on transistor) connect to the 12 volt input to the module"?

Thanks, tm

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tm

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