disabling the daytime driving lights

Oh that's why I was joking, I have a sting of luck where "when it's raining, it's pouring" so if I was caught in the cross hairs of some fancy lawyer, I'm guessing I would be doomed.

So no bet from me, just as you said no bet from you too. :)

tom

Interesting enough, the US military did somd experiments using lights as a form of camoflage during the day. I forget the details, but bright lights, even during the day can hide the objects that are behind them. That's why some police officers turn on their headlights and take down lights when they do traffic stops during the day. Something about the way the brain processes bright lights.

Gary

Ever see one of those guys on TV that can make elephants, lions and even ships and mountains disappear? What is always one of the props? ;)

mike hunt

Garys2 wrote:

A very large tent?...

What?

Only a moron would. Of course, only morons top post.

On some models, the running lights go off when the parking brake is applied. Excuse the resident moron. He's not all there.

Allen L. wrote: || In news: snipped-for-privacy@news.individual.net, || badgolferman typed: ||| Is there a simple way of disabling the daytime driving lights of a ||| 2000 Sienna? I'm hoping a fuse or relay would be all needed. Of ||| course I want the rest of the headlight system to work. ||| ||| I know these are supposed to contribute to safety, but I find them ||| annoying. Besides, it seems many newer cars don't even have them ||| anymore. || || I *just* asked the same of my Toyota dealer about my new 4 runner as || it states in the manual that it can be done by the dealer. The || dealer told me that it was not as simple as removing a fuse...they || needed to rewire some things, etc. because by removing the fuse you || would not have lights. Said it would cost about $180 or so. That was || the end of if for me :-) || || ...Allen

And it SHOULD be the end of the subject for anyone who isn't a juvenile, antiauthority asshole.

snipped-for-privacy@mailcity.com wrote: || Have you tried applying the parking brake to the first notch, || backing off the adjustment and covering the indicator light? ;) || || || mike hunt

That's exactly how I handle the problem, too.

|| || || || "Allen L." wrote: ||| || || The dealer told me ||| that it was not as simple as removing a fuse...they needed to ||| rewire some things, etc. because by removing the fuse you would not ||| have lights. Said it would cost about $180 or so. That was the end ||| of if for me :-) ||| ||| ...Allen

TeGGer® wrote: || "badgolferman" wrote in || news: snipped-for-privacy@news.individual.net: || ||| Is there a simple way of disabling the daytime driving lights of a ||| 2000 Sienna? I'm hoping a fuse or relay would be all needed. Of ||| course I want the rest of the headlight system to work. ||| || || || || It's an easy fix. || || Do you feel like subscribing to this Yahoo group? ||

Why do you encourage fuckheads to drive around without any lights on?

|| || || -- || TeGGeR®

The Real Tom wrote: || On 12 Mar 2005 23:02:14 GMT, "badgolferman" || wrote: || ||| Is there a simple way of disabling the daytime driving lights of a ||| 2000 Sienna? I'm hoping a fuse or relay would be all needed. Of ||| course I want the rest of the headlight system to work. ||| ||| I know these are supposed to contribute to safety, but I find them ||| annoying. Besides, it seems many newer cars don't even have them ||| anymore. || || || IMHO: || || Disabling/defeating any safety device exposes yourself to servere || litigation issues. Now you might think, wtf I own nothing, but || imagine having any property you come into ownership leans against, || and having your wages/pension/retirement garnished 10% till your || multimillion lawsuit is paid off. I wouldn't do it. || || Right now I wouldn't be surprised a few lawyers are drooling now || reading this post. :-P || || Some might be telling you how to do it. ;) || || later, || || tom @

Guaranteed, IF I was in an accident, I'd hire private investigators to find out if those DRL's were deactivated, then I'd sure THE LIVING ASS off both the driver AND the owner of the vehicle.

The Real Tom wrote: || On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:46:42 GMT, "Allen L." || wrote: || |||| On 12 Mar 2005 23:02:14 GMT, "badgolferman" |||| wrote: |||| ||||| Is there a simple way of disabling the daytime driving lights of a ||||| 2000 Sienna? I'm hoping a fuse or relay would be all needed. Of ||||| course I want the rest of the headlight system to work. ||||| ||||| I know these are supposed to contribute to safety, but I find them ||||| annoying. Besides, it seems many newer cars don't even have them ||||| anymore. |||| |||| ||| In news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, ||| The Real Tom typed: ||| |||| IMHO: |||| |||| Disabling/defeating any safety device exposes yourself to servere |||| litigation issues. Now you might think, wtf I own nothing, but |||| imagine having any property you come into ownership leans against, |||| and having your wages/pension/retirement garnished 10% till your |||| multimillion lawsuit is paid off. I wouldn't do it. |||| |||| Right now I wouldn't be surprised a few lawyers are drooling now |||| reading this post. :-P |||| |||| Some might be telling you how to do it. ;) |||| |||| later, |||| |||| tom @

If I was a juror is a DRL removal case, I'd award damages equal to TRIPLE your assets and what you could earn in a lifetime.

dbu wrote: || In article , || "Allen L." wrote: || |||| On 12 Mar 2005 23:02:14 GMT, "badgolferman" |||| wrote: |||| ||||| Is there a simple way of disabling the daytime driving lights of a ||||| 2000 Sienna? I'm hoping a fuse or relay would be all needed. Of ||||| course I want the rest of the headlight system to work. ||||| ||||| I know these are supposed to contribute to safety, but I find them ||||| annoying. Besides, it seems many newer cars don't even have them ||||| anymore. |||| |||| ||| In news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, ||| The Real Tom typed: ||| |||| IMHO: |||| |||| Disabling/defeating any safety device exposes yourself to servere |||| litigation issues. Now you might think, wtf I own nothing, but |||| imagine having any property you come into ownership leans against, |||| and having your wages/pension/retirement garnished 10% till your |||| multimillion lawsuit is paid off. I wouldn't do it. |||| |||| Right now I wouldn't be surprised a few lawyers are drooling now |||| reading this post. :-P |||| |||| Some might be telling you how to do it. ;) |||| |||| later, |||| |||| tom @

Have you ALWAYS been an asshole?

|| || "Stupid is as stupid does" Forrest Gump || --

I don't see any piont in disabling MY DRLs. They aren't bothering me, although I suspect they are annoying thousands of other people. I do wish I could disable all the other crappy DRLs out there that bother the crap out of me. I am waiting for the lawsuit where DRLs can be blamed for causing an accident. They are distracting as heck, particulalrly since they come in so many flavors and loctions (dimmed headlights, parking lights, etc., etc) and many cars don't have them at all. Maybe in the great white north they are useful. Here in North Carolina, they are a major annoyance. I encorage everyone to disable them for my safety!

Ed

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What could possibly be annoying to you about YOUR daytime running lights. They are annoying as hell to the rest of us, but how can they be annoying to you, you can't even see them.

When I am sitting there as the getaway minivan I don't want to be noticed by others. If I drive down the dark alley as I'm trying to elude the cops with the huge stash of money in the minivan I don't want to be seen by anyone chasing me.

Truth is, when you stop behind someone at a light and your lights reflect on their SUV back onto you or shine into their rearview mirror, I think that is annoying. If I'm sitting in the car waiting for someone with the engine on I don't want my lights on pointing across the street at the neighbor's house. Besides, won't the filament wear out after being used constantly; that will cost me money.

The main point has been made by others. They are annoying to me when others have them on therefore I would like to make it one less person that is annoying other drivers.

You look for a way to turn your lights off when you drive, I'm looking for a way to turn mine on. Lights on while driving has been shown to provide a level of safety not found when driving with lights off.

I can't imagine why they came up with DTRs, instead of simply turning the head lights on after the engine starts.