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I want to buy a new Matrix-need advice

I am the 2000 Echo owner that posted recently about buying a new car,probably a 2007 Matrix. Today, I went to my local Toyota dealer and looked at some Matrixes. I also had them appraise my Echo for its' trade in value. The lady I spoke with said they would give me $3800.00 for the Echo. I then asked to test drive a Matrix, and I test drove a 2006 version, although I want a 2007. Anyway, I really liked to way it drove, the way it felt, and loved the interior. The saleslady tried to get me to get the 2007 XR version. She said it would have a higher re-sale value than the plain Matrix. Is it worth the price difference? Also, what is better about the XR? I was mainly ineterested about how much my Echo would fetch upon trade-in, because I have the 60000 mile maintenance due to be done soon. I am not sure I want to keep putting money into this Echo. I felt very pressured by the salelady, and at one point she offered to give me $4200.00 for the Echo, plus 2 free airline tickets if I bought the Matrix today. Also, she didn't seem to want to answer any questions about the car itself, and seemed mainly concerned about spouting numbers at me. I of course, didn't buy the Matrix today. I just wanted to find out more about doing the whole thing. Anyone have any opinions? I am pretty set on a Matrix. Oh, and they had the new limited edition Matrix Theory edition in the showroom. It looked really cool, and it comes in a really neat looking blue color. I'd love one of those, but I'n not sure the higher price is justified. Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Reply to
darrenli516
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there are many web sites where you can get an idea of the value of your Echo, like nada.com, kbb.com, edmunds.com, etc. You can refer to the sales brochure or go to toyota.com to find out the differences between the various grades and models for the Matrix. IIRC, one of the models requires premium fuel, which may be a consideration to you.

Reply to
Ray O

If you live in the southern US, I'd suggest getting outside of Southeast Toyota's area to buy your new Toyota.

Southeast adds a totally useless 680 buck package to every Toyota they sell...

Reply to
Scott in Florida

Isn't that Matrices? ;)

Not really...it has alloy wheels, a better trim pkg, and, I think 4 wheel disc brakes.

I think all of these can be added to a plain Matrix.

Now, if she tried to steer you towards an XR-S... (these can't be had anymore..they had the Celica's 1.8L 190 HP engine! WHOOOO HOOOOO! I got to drive one ONCE, just before they were discontinued...)

That's because she doesn't KNOW! Toyotas sell so well, anyone can sell them...and does.

The days when the salesperson used to know what he or she was selling you are gone. She knows it's a car, and a Toyota, and that she'll make $500 on the sale.

Push for the $4200 no matter what. If she's willing today, she's willing tomorrow.

Those cars are in demand. Look at a lot of people that have SUVs and you'll see an Echo or a Yaris in the yard, too...

The more the price of gas goes up, the more your Echo is worth...

What area do you live in, anyway? That makes a difference, too.

This could be a One Off they customized when it came in the door. Dealers do this, and offer them at a discount price, and call them Loss Leaders. They do it to have something snappy to get people in the door.

Scion is doing the same thing with the tC RS 2.0. The dealer customizes a few of them and shines them up real nice, but the price is slightly higher, so you'll buy the Lot Lizards for a higher dealer profit (I don't need all that stuff...show me a plain one...)

Ooops, I stand corrected...it IS a Toyota sanctioned model, 2,500 units to be sold. Yeah, this MAY be worth a little more at trade in, or for sale to a Toyota K00k like me!!!

Bottom line:

" Quote: The M-Theory adds several sporty exterior enhancements including unique Speedway Blue paint with matching rear deck lid spoiler, a large chrome exhaust tip and M-Theory badges. M-theory also features 17-inch Caldina alloy wheels with P215/50R17 tires, four wheel disc brakes, logo floor mats, and an individually numbered limited edition plaque. The M-Theory will also feature enhanced vehicle handling thanks to a standard sport tuned suspension and sport strut tower brace will also enhance vehicle handling. Only 2,500 units of the special edition Matrix M-Theory will be built. The Matrix M-Theory special edition package will carry a base manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) of $1,500. "

Reply to
Hachiroku

there's no timing belt in the echo. it's a chain, and it doesn't get replaced. i wonder just what the 60,000 mile service is on the echo? i have 112,000 on mine and it's still as good as ever. i bought a corolla XRS and i like it (it's a matrix but has the conventional trunk. it also is a bit lighter than the matrix) but i won' t get rid of the echo. it's still a blast to drive. sammmm

Reply to
SAMMM

Check the seat adjustments in the basic compared to the XR. The XR has a seat height adjustment while the basic does not. Makes a difference in comfort for me if I can adjust the height. Neither basic or XR require premium fuel. Check Toyota's web site

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look for the matrix and you can see the info that describes both models.

Reply to
Al

Nonsense. My base model has seat height adjustment.

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Moro Grubb of Little Delving

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