Lincoln Zephyr or Avalon?

Obviously you have not been out in the real world pricing new vehicles lately, if that is what you believe ;)

mike hunt

More likely they are driving a sixties era Chevy LOL

mike hunt

Dad ... you're way out of date. What's left of the 50's-70's Chevy Impala inventory out here have been turned into Low Riders. Do keep up!

If you have better information, by all means, post it.

You don't, of course, but that doesn't keep you from making noise. Like the three transmissions in my old Aerostar: noisy but not useful.

Aerostar? Shouldn't you go into an antique car NG if you what to talk about old cars like the Aerostar? I have been discussing vehicles that one can by today, not antique vehicles LOL

mike hunt

Nothing cooler than a low rider 1965 Chevy convertible, dude LOL

Don't change the subject. You insinuated that Edmunds' pricing information should not be believed. Support your insinuation or accept Edmunds as correct.

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Shoot! I'd be happy to have a Corona!

Personally, that is easy. In 2000 I bought my one granddaughter a new car. She searched Edmunds for prices. The car I bought had an MSRP nearly $1,700 LESS than listed by Edmunds. They listed the moon roof and leather interior as extra cost options, when in fact they were no cost options. My one son bought a 2005 Grand Marquis in July for $4,000 less than the price, as equipped, listed by Edmonds. The 2005 Mustang GT convertible that I bought in March was listed by Edmonds at $31,200 the actual MSRP was $30,600. ;)

mike hunt

Then it's likely they're overstating the Toyota prices, too. The end result would be the same.

The point is if one wants to discover what it actually costs to buy ANY vehicle, one needs to go to a dealer and negotiate a real world total drive home price. That is what I do every year ;)

mike hunt

Yeah, I'm going to waste my time and some salesman's time on that. I'll trust KBB and Edmunds, your anectdote notwithstanding, until I get additional evidence that they're frequently off.

Edmunds has been fairly good at predicting used car prices for me; I've bought four in the last three years and Edmunds has been reasonably close to the market each time.

You are free to believe whatever you want and to spend your money wherever and however you chose, I could not care less. ;)

mike hunt