Managed to Help A Toyota Owner

"Bruce L. Bergman" ... "Wickeddoll®"

I'm so depressed that I know who Nervous Norvus was... "Transfusion" Gawd, I'm old. Now that song is stuck in my head. Thanks. :-P

So if I look out my 747's window and see smoke, I should just relax? Not likely...

Well, duh. I was joking.

I'll still take the boat.

That's just it - surrendering control, and hoping these yutzes know what they're doing. At least in a car, you can grab the wheel.

So is mine - soiling myself.

O_O

Natalie

My first plane trip was from San Fransisco to Tokyo in a propeller driven Douglas DC-7 or Boeing 377, which developed engine trouble about 2 hours from Tokyo and caused the pilot to drop to 300' over the ocean in preparation to ditch. I didn't know this until 10 years later, after I completed my second plane trip and my father told me of the incident.

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That's why they have (4) engines.

My first plane trip was from San Fransisco to Tokyo in a propeller driven Douglas DC-7 or Boeing 377, which developed engine trouble about 2 hours from Tokyo and caused the pilot to drop to 300' over the ocean in preparation to ditch. I didn't know this until 10 years later, after I completed my second plane trip and my father told me of the incident.

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ROFL

Natalie

They have had people around here that have run into props.. That's a mess... One guy had his pax get out to undo a wheel chock or something along those lines one night at one of the local small fields.. It was ugly when he walked into that prop.. I can see the hesitation factor, and why the lines for that job would be short.. :/ MK

I should add to the non pilots:

FL360 = 36,000 feet FL290 = 29,000 feet

Jets burn more fuel at lower altitudes.

This is also an interesting take on the side effects of a "passenger bill of rights".

Amtrak:

I'd FLY, or stick with the boat.

The Avalon always sucked. Even the 07 one that's basically a GS is said to be a clunker compared to GS. Must be the misfits working on the Toyota line and all the good workers got promoted to the Lexus line. Since they are basically the same car, that tells you the amount of profit Toyota is making with the Lexus line.

Heck, a 777 has so much gittyup and go just from a single engine, that it can do a nomal takeoff from a slow roll, on the single engine. It has waaaay more power than it would ever need for an engine out scenario once airborne. Engine out is one of the lesser problems pilots would have to deal with.. And they train out the kazoo for it, so it's 2nd nature, even on a takeoff. Losing one on a 747 will be a non issue.. I'm not sure, but it would probably be ok on just two, if it was already airborne. Course, it would make it a lot easier if the two remaining engines are on each wing, opposite each other, and not on the same side.. Dunno if a 747 has enough rudder/.etc, to deal with two engines on the same wing, but it wouldn't surprise me if it had just enough to handle it... All them propheads at boeing think of stuff like that... So it wouldn't surprise me if it could do it. :/ MK

At least the car starts and drives off with a big wack. Some owners of the new U-series transmissions have replaced them with new ones, and will have to replace them again if they start skipping gears again (Toyota Jan 07 TSB). That would be $4000-5000 after warranty and won't drive off with a wack! ;)

Right! I don't allow the doors to open until I'm shut down, as well as instruct pickups to not approach the aircraft. I tell them that I'll come and get them once the aircraft is secured. At busy GA fields, I'd rather not have them focus on me and walk across taxiways, etc... while other aircraft may be running or in motion. Too many distractions in a noisy environment!

For instance, at the Providence general aviation ramp during a typical evening, they can be pushing back UPS and FedEX widebodies, SWA 737's are starting full-throttle takeoff rolls nearby if 23 is the active runway, or a Gulfstream G4 might glide by idling!

The typical passenger is totally awed by the sights and sounds, and could very easily walk in front of something deadly, maybe a prop, more likely a speeding FedEX truck or baggage train, that they never heard coming. Most folks haven't been 50 feet from a cargo 767 as they start the engines, so you have to look out for them and help keep them safe. I've seen it a bunch, and I still think it's cool when they wind those things up!

Yes, it is... on the typical piston aircraft, a 76-80" lawn mower blade with a bunch of torque behind it. Turboprops are even worse, as they idle rather quietly.

People have also leaned on props where the mags were hot, causing a kick or inadvertent start. Smart line people will ask to see the keys. Good pilots will hold the keys up or put them on the glareshield at shut down, proving they're out of the ignition to approaching ground handlers.

I'll gladly pay to fix the Bendix.

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" ... "Wickeddoll®" :

Yeah, I know it's statistically safer to fly, but dying is not my fear. It's dying like *that* - plunging to the ground, completely helpless.

Natalie

Heck, a 777 has so much gittyup and go just from a single engine, that it can do a nomal takeoff from a slow roll, on the single engine. It has waaaay more power than it would ever need for an engine out scenario once airborne. Engine out is one of the lesser problems pilots would have to deal with.. And they train out the kazoo for it, so it's 2nd nature, even on a takeoff. Losing one on a 747 will be a non issue.. I'm not sure, but it would probably be ok on just two, if it was already airborne. Course, it would make it a lot easier if the two remaining engines are on each wing, opposite each other, and not on the same side.. Dunno if a 747 has enough rudder/.etc, to deal with two engines on the same wing, but it wouldn't surprise me if it had just enough to handle it... All them propheads at boeing think of stuff like that... So it wouldn't surprise me if it could do it. :/ MK

I believe everything you're saying, but phobias have no basis in logic.

Natalie

It's all over, VERY quickly, They say. But the few seconds of terror, abject terror...........must seem like a lifetime.

It would probably make me a little nervous.. But only cuz I would be wondering what would happen if the last engine went... :/ I listen to the aviation radios quite a bit here, and I heard an American jet blow an engine on takeoff out of Houston Hobby.. I'm not sure what he was flying, but I'm fairly sure it was not a boeing. Probably a MD-80 type model, etc.. "IE: a stretched DC-9 mutant" The tower asked him what he wanted to do.. They didn't even return to the field.. They just went on straight to Dallas, where I guess they were headed. So obviously it wasn't that big a deal to the pilots. And they had paying passengers on board. Some pilots fly their whole careers and not blow an engine.. Some probably get quirked and might blow two or three in 30-40 years.. :( Then you have birds... :( MK

I've got copies of many black box crash recordings.. Some are pretty creepy.. Most end with "oh #$%!!!^" and then a thundering boom. You can actually hear the crash sound in most cases. I better shadupp or Wicke will never fly again... :/ MK

"sharx35" ...

You got it in one!

Natalie

"sharx35" :

Too late...

Natalie

THe 1999 300M is still running strong. We gave it to my in-laws who love it. Yes on one occassion it would not start in the our garage. We believe the security system must have been confused by the Toyota key. Both cars warn in their respective manuals to keep keys from other cars that have security systems away from the ignition systems or the security system may decide someone is trying to steal the car. Our mistake.... not the 300M's.