OT: Are you glad we are allies with China?

You will start to here the Left screaming "It's Bush's fault" because it happened on his watch. They don't seem to understand these things take root years prior and decisions we made before are affecting us now. Who in their right mind would be selling technological secrets to foreign governments who are clearly enemies of ours at the time? Personally I don't agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" since that friend can easily turn on you and become your enemy.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. But in all honesty they will have been well aware that these 'attacks' were being detected, just as aware as the US authorities were that they were being attacked. Its not like it was that secret. Thats like someone testing cluster bombs on their enemies most sensitive air base and expecting them not to notice.

I'll agree with you about Clinton, but for 8 years Bush has been kissing Chinese butt also. Where's his spine? Sorry, big business wants relations with China, Bush will never interfere with that, even at the cost of national security. This country been sold out by Clinton and Bush.

Yeah, like nobody in China was smart enough to figure out lasers unless they stole them from us.

Get a grip. China has the resources to do this kind of thing because we've been buying billions of dollars of made-in-China crap every week from them. Their schools are getting to be top notch and their students bust their ass for good grades and they're all willing to study math and science. Ours don't.

You don't see Chinese school boards trying to teach "Intelligent Design" or, worse, "Creationism," they know the way to whip our asses is with real science. They respect learning, education and the scientific method.

Yeah - and in the next breath, he'll be pointing out that Clinton was "dodging the draft" at Oxford. Buchanan should get himself a map and notice that Oxford is overseas.

The idea that other people must be stealing from us if they are able to do things we did is ridiculus. Check out our universities to see how many scientists and professors are from another countries.

Check your local school districts to see how many top students in math and science classes are chinese or indian immigrants. Of course it's another story if you live in an area where immigrants don't want to live.

Don't worry, we'll have "intelligently designed" people to do math and science, -:).

Those interested should read "Enemies" by Bill Gertz or Google his site. Some interesting factoids regarding China. It might elevate this conversation here beyond a partisan circle jerk.