San Francisco says no to bottled water
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16 years ago
San Francisco says no to bottled water
So they're going to sneak bottled water in from out of town? Have little places where you have to know the special knock to get in and the password. Probably "Evian sent me".
I'm waiting for the first appearance of smoke-easys in C(r)ook County. Oh, no, there's no corruption in Chicago. And Al Capone is just a bad nightmare. And if you believe that one, I'll tell you another. And I'll tell it to the marines while I'm at it.
Charles of Schaumburg
Why would I want to buy more bottled water? Testing's revealed that a lot of it is simply tap water, put into bottles. The only time I ever buy it is when I'm sightseeing & am thirsty - stop to buy a bottle of water. Then refill it at the hotel (tap awater) for the next outing.
Cathy
Testing revealed that? It's right on the label for many of them. "Purified municipal water supply from whatever city".
They're exerting control over city offices, Einstein. Not "the masses". And, since most bottled water sold in this country is nothing but tap water, it makes no sense to contribute more plastic to landfills for absolutely no purpose.
Oh, and in many locales, there is more plastic than recyclers can handle, so it *DOES* end up in landfills.
Reduce, reuse, recycle. Ever heard of that? Reduction is always the first choice, since it costs nothing.
Not all water is the same.
Purified water artesian water, ground water distilled water mineral water sterile water
Check the labels. If you want to buy bottled water, buy it, don't let some petty assed nanny government tell ya otherwise in the name of global warming, what a bunch of bull.
We've been recycling here for years. We have two separate trash bins, one for recycle trash the other for just trash. Recycle sorting is performed at the Allied Waste facility. It's called single sort recycling. We also have a recycle center which is modern and well maintained and homeowners can bring in TVs, paint computers, all sorts of recycleable things. The rest of the country including YOU and your state, NY, has to catch up.
We pay for recycle regardless. It's on our trash and water utility statements in the form of tax and recycle fees. You will be paying too when your state finally gets on the ball.
What do you expect from the People's Republic?
Who's the Representative of that district, anyway?
Yup, starts here, and then where's it go?
For the few (maybe 2 - 3?) times/year I wind up buying a bottle of water, I'm not going to bother - esp. when tap water's fine with me to begin with. When buying bottled water, I realize I'm paying for the convenience of the portable bottle way more than for the water it contains.
If you want to buy bottled water, buy it, don't let
Quote: "...banning city departments from buying bottled water..." Unless I work in a city dep't. in SF, it's not going to affect me. Or you. And since they're still going to supply water for the employees - just not bottled (unless there's a health concern, as stated in the article), who cares? You may not agree, but to me water is water is water. I prefer it cold if possible, & of course potable, but those are my only criteria.
in the name of
Look at it this way: how long are those plastic bottles going to sit around in landfills - just sitting there? Look at it another way: bottled water - so many people buying so much of it - is a relatively new phenomenon. What'd people do before they could buy a bottles of water - ones which often have a "tony" (tone-y?)/"I'm drinking something better than plain ol' tap water" - label on it?
Not worth getting bothered over, IMO.
Cathy
The issue isn't recycling.... the issue that they are concerned about is the manufacturing process making what the city feels is an unnecessary product. Seems to me it is the city's prerogative.
Uhhhh... a bottle bill's been in effect in NYS for 25 years for carbonated beverages, & they're debating expanding it to non-carbonated. Counties & local municipalities have their own recycling programs. Beyond paying for the city's trash bags, I pay a fee of approx. ~70/year for garbage & recycling pick-up: corrugated cardboard, plastics & glass (other than the state bottle bill containers), & papers.
Cathy
ROFL!!!!! The water industry loves idiots. Here are Penn & Teller explaining bottled water:
At that previous link, you'll have to wait for the 2nd half, where the bottled water story begins.
Then, it continues here:
You get by cheap. I pay $436 a year. Garbage and recycle service. There is no option other than a choice of 3 or 4 haulers.
Yes, the bottles, been around for eons.
You be the ignorant one. I got my information from the EPA.
Ummm...you should watch the video. The EPA barely regulates bottled water at all. In real tests, 1/3 of brands failed standards for purity.
But, that's not even the point. All those fresh, pure sounding names like "Everest" - they come from the exact same municipal water as what comes out of the tap in the same city. It's one thing to buy a bottle because you're not home and you need water. It's something else entirely to buy it all the time because you imagine it to be better in some way. With rare exceptions, it is not.
actually this is a good thing... its a conservative thing if anything.. he's telling the city workers that if you want bottled water then bring it on your own dime and with your own money...
I don't know what the range is for garbage fees, nation-wide. This house doesn't generate much garbage once the recyclables are sorted, so a small (vs. a large) city bag at one/week is usually enough. So... about $120/yr. for bags & the fee.
"Yes, the bottles..." What about the bottles (& which bottles - water, carbonated drinks?)? That bottles have been around for a long time, the bottle bill, what?? Not that it really matters. I just don't know what you're referring to.
Cathy
Exactly the points I was trying to get across.
Cathy
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