Plan on driving a new car on a 3000mile highway trip. Bad idea?

I'm a retard because I told someone to change his oil in a new car after a

3,000 mile road trip?

I knew from the first time you answered a post of mine you were nothing but an asshole. Thanks for proving it.

If you knew half as much as you think you do, you'd still be an imbecile.

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Hachiroku
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Me to, witless, me too...

Reply to
Hachiroku

Like I told Jeff, who just likes to argue to argue, come on over and we'll start the 23 year old Corolla.

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Hachiroku

actually, you said: "I drive a car 1500 miles and then do the first oil change".

then, just to make sure it wasn't a typo or that you were mistaken the first time, you said: "I would still take it pretty easy for the first 1500 miles, and stop and have the oil changed".

so you said to change it after 1500 miles. twice. not 3000 miles.

an imbecile is one who not only doesn't now what they're talking about, but doesn't have the balls to admit it when caught, or worse, tries to b.s. their way out of it. you sir, are the imbecile.

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jim beam

i say that, given that i can't be bothered to do the tribology myself, but as someone that has done analysis on engine wear, reading the freakin' book is the way to go. not too hard. unless you can't read. or get past the first paragraph of "blather".

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jim beam

it's a corolla - starting a corolla with low mileage like that is totally unimpressive.

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jim beam

Question: would the sludge-filled Toyota engines have benefited from 3K changes vs. 5K or 7.5K changes?

The fact is, the carmakers put out products of sometimes questionable quality. The Toyota sludging engines are an example. We, the consumers, won't know this until it's too late.

3K changes are insurance against that.
Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

the /correct/ insurance against that is opening the oil filler cap and looking inside once in a while. you should do that anyway when checking for fluid levels, leaks, etc., as with many cars, it's where you'll see first signs of head gasket leakage.

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jim beam

No they're not. Well they are, but so are 5000 mile changes. The sludging was from owners following the 7500 mile interval.

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SMS

Plus, it's a very bad idea to change your oil that soon. Some dealers put signs up in their service areas warning customers not too change the oil on new cars too soon.

Again, follow the manual. Too much maintenance can be as bad as too little.

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SMS

Well, my point is that the sludging occurred when following the factory recommended interval. Then it came out: y'all weren't changing your oil often enough. Then it all came out: Toyota screwed up in the design of that engine.

If we can't trust the factory engineer recommendations from Toyota, then it's in our own hands to determine what a comfortable interval would be to try to eliminate such problems.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote

That kinda fuks up your "trust the manual" philosophy that you give such a hard time to others about.

And with that said, you should never say another goddamn word when someone questions a Honda "Maintenance Minder" schedule.

Peace, Polfus

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Polfus

The car's manual says every 5,000 mi.

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Jeff

Not if the engine is subject to sludging.

And if the threads on the oil drain plug or where the oil filter goes get damaged, you could easily run out of oil.

Jeff

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Jeff

In which case, you will now hear from the people who swear by those replacement flip-valve plugs.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty

Yup. It does.

It comes down to: do you trust the car company?

It's been shown that we can't even trust Toyota. WTF.

temper, temper.

So you're of a mind to do it on your own schedule, then, regardless?

No one else can recommend a schedule for you if you want to do it on your own.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty

"Polfus" wrote in news:482dd3e9$0$30525$ snipped-for-privacy@roadrunner.com:

would switching to a full synthetic oil stop the sludging?

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Jim Yanik

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Mike hunt

Toyota seems to think so. That is what they recommended when they were having problems with engines presenting with what they referred to as oil "gelling" ;)

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Mike hunt

that's not strictly true. it's the manual "as revised". each time a tsb is issued, it's what's in the tsb that prevails. just like a service pack or software update for your computer.

if you don't want to follow the manual's service schedule, do oil analysis. all this blind gut stuff is utterly retarded. so is never checking the simple stuff that can be easily checked come to that, and looking inside the rocker cover is hardly difficult to do.

as for toyota sludging, it wasn't /every/ toyota that did it, just a very small subset of users that would literally drive around the block, then stop. repeatedly. if the oil never reached operating temperature but was constantly loaded with condensates, i'm sure pretty much any car would be susceptible. and you then have to ask, to what degree does the engineer have to anticipate statistical outliers?

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jim beam

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