Wife had a Volvo station wagon and after some years she replaced it with a
new Camry XLE. The XLE is great but she missed the space and function of the
wagon whenever she does some major shopping. She doesn't like the mini vans
or SUVs as its too big and not so good on gas. If nothing else is available
it seems like she is go back for a new Volvo wagon again. Will Toyota make a
Camry or Avalon wagon?
They SHOULD. My son has a 96 Camry wagon. Every 2-3 weeks, someone
approaches him and asks if he wants to sell it. If it wasn't in mint
condition, he probably do it, but where else would he get a replacement for
At this point, basic marketing should come into play. Suggest
that he ask of any future enquirers whatever sum he would need
to replace the current wagon with something that would satisfy
him as much. If enquirer is prepared to pay, son is laughing.
Yeah, every few months somebody will ask me if I want to sell one of my
two 1981 wagons, which are in good condition but still not mint. I
think, "And if I do, where will I get a replacement wagon?"
The matrix is kind of wagon-ish but isn't really one. I also can't get
used to the tiny hatch window when I carpool on long trips with matrix
My husband's xA looks quite similar to the Matrix, but of course lacks the
testicular fortitude of that car.
I really don't need a wagon now (my kids are no longer small), so I'm not in
the market for one, but when they were little, the wagons were gone, except
the Camry, which I couldn't afford at the time.
We had a Volvo Cross Country (AWD) Wagon which we replaced with a Toyota
Highlander AWD V6 Limited because My wife wanted something that would put
her a little higher for better visibility. The amenities in the Toyota are
as good as the Volvo, the ride is as comfortable, and the mileage is the
same. The Volvo did handle a little better but visibility from the
Highlander is much better. And yes, the Highlander is a Camry Wagon.
She would not go for the Matrix although I don't mine having one. She is too
used to power everything including the power heated leather seats, premium
stereo, GPS, etc. She love to have the 300hp engine that gets close to 30mpg
freeway miles on the Avalon - a serious shopper who needs the speed and
comfort to get to Target or Costco.
Toyota still builds station wagons, they just don't call anything they sell
in the US a wagon. In the UK, they sell a "5 Door Estate." In the US this
would be a station wagon. See
What is the Matrix if it isn't a station wagon? It might be a poorly
designed station wagon, but if you had sold something like that 20 years
ago, it would have been called a station wagon.
How about the Highlander, or the RAV4? In 1980, they would have been
classed as station wagons. I don't think anyone seriously considers these
For that matter, what is a 4Runner, but a really poorly design station
wagon? I suppose you could call it an SUV, but it a poor one of those too.
Car manufacturers don't want to call anything a "Station Wagon," since that
has negative connotations these days. And now, they don't want to call
vehicles mini-vans either. So now we have crossovers. I wonder how long it
will be before that term is as out of favor as "station wagon?" But really,
Camry's, RAV4s, Highlanders, and Sienna all share many basic components.
Toyota might not admit it, but both the Highlander and RAV4 are just
disguised Camry Wagons.
So what makes something an SUV as opposed to a station wagon? An SUV should
have decent towing capacity, RAV4s and Highlanders have a 35000 lb max
(when properly equipped). "Real" SUVs should be able to tow much more than
this. An SUV should have decent off-road ability. Who in there right mind
would drive a RAV4 or a Highlander on anything more difficult that beach
sand? Jacking up a station wagon and calling it an SUV might make marketing
sense, but it hardly makes it an SUV. And a Matrix is not particularly high.
Nor is a RAV4. Highlanders are taller, but why? They still have the ground
clearance of a Camry. No ground clearance, minimal towing ability, minimal
off road ability does not make a station wagon an SUV no matter how high
they raise the roof. It is not just Toyota that is labeling station wagons
as SUVs or Crossovers - what is a Chrysler Pacifica or a Ford Freestyle if
they aren't really Station Wagons? What is a Dodge Magnum if not a poorly
designed station wagon?
BTW - when I was young my family owned nothing but station wagons.
IMHO A decent station wagon should either be RWD or AWD. Too much
weight in the cargo area, is not a good scenario. Minivans, SUVs,
Crossover UVs, are weight distributed. FWDs with heavy cargo will have
too much wheel spin and torque will be lost.
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