1990 Camry headlights never off

I have a 1990 Toyota Camry station wagon, automatic, 4 cyl, FWD. The headlights remain on as soon as the vehicle is started up. I cannot turn them off while the engine is running. Is this "normal" due to industry regulations? Is there a way to easily defeat this so that I can have full control of my headlights?

Jerry

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Jerry
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In news: snipped-for-privacy@sympatico.ca, Jerry being of bellicose mind posted:

Are you in a Canadian Province, Jerry?

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Philip®

I also have a '90 Camry and the lights stay on due to the new (at the time) daytime running lights laws. Newer cars run the headlights at a lower intensity, something like 40-60% of full on. I use to pull the fuses if I was at a drive-in and wanted to run my engine.

It is illegal to defeat any safety equipment on any car registered in Ontario (I believe you live in TO. n'est pas?). Therefore you're stuck with the full-on headlights. Unless of course you don't give a s**t and install a switch to turn them off whenever you like ;-). The best way to do that is to install it inline with the headlight relay, that way it doesn't switch high current. According to my manual, it's the red wire with a yellow stripe coming off the headlight relay that you will need to interrupt with your switch.

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"normal" due to industry regulations? Is there a

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Kevin Murray

In some cars if you raise the barking brake

1 notch the lights will go out, not sure it works on a camry, but try it for free.
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In news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m28.aol.com, ROBMURR being of bellicose mind posted:

This technique works on cars with a DRL logic box ... not on those that are hard wired. Even so, you have to raise the Parking Brake and then start the engine for the DRLs to stay out. With the engine running, simply raising the PB lever does not extinguish the DRL lights (in Toyota). ;^)

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Philip®

This is true, it was suggested to me that I put the park brake on and the lights stayed on anyway.

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Kevin Murray

Oh well, it was just a guess...time for the wire cutters!

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ROBMURR

Yes, Ontario, the vehicle was originally from Manitoba.

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Jerry

In news: snipped-for-privacy@sympatico.ca, Jerry being of bellicose mind posted:

I cannot speak precisely to your 1990 Camry. To generalize, if the healamp switch is bypassed for Province compliance, then a Toyota dealer should be able to tell you which specific wires are jumped and where. Can I assume your tail lights and instrumentation lights are -also- ON all the time? Do you have an conventional OFF/Parking/ON rotating switch on the turnsignal stalk? If so, then it would seem to me the circuit is simply "jumpered" somewhere rather than an entirely differenct harnass. In the US, we don't do that Big Brother stuff. ;^)

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Philip®

Yes, Philip, your assumption is correct re the tail and instrumentation lights. I have a conventional Off, Parking, ON switch on the turn signal stock. The hi-beam switch only works in the ON position. I'll have another look at the wiring diagrams of my Haynes manual to see where a jump might be put. I'll talk to a Toyota service manager as well.

Jerry

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