Block Heater Wanted

I'm looking for an engine block heater for my '85 SR5 Pickup. I think I'd prefer the freeze plug type but the only ones I have found, so far, are only 400 watts. I just installed a Kats 400 watt freeze plug type in my wife's buick but I'm not very impressed. The other morning it got down to about 15 degrees (farenheit) and I went out and started her car and it didn't seem that the heater had done anything at all. Maybe I am expecting too much but it still took about 10 minutes for any hot air to come from the defroster which was about the same amount of time as before I installed the heater. So I'm looking for a freeze plug type heater that will put out about 700 or more watts. Anybody know where I might find such an item. I did find one, made by ZeroStart that the book said was 750 watts but when I took it out of the package it said 400 watts stamped on the part itself so I'm still looking.

My second choice is the type that installs in the heater hose. (Not the radiator hose) Anybody have any experience with this type of heater? I've found a couple of different brands of this type rated at 750 - 2000 watts but a couple of the parts store salespeople told me that that this type of heater is not to be used in a Toyota 22RE cooling system. A couple of other salespeople told me that they would work just fine. Who you gonna believe? So, I'd like to hear from some Toyota 22RE owners that have solved the same type of problems that I am having. All info will be appreciated. TIA Jerry

PS If you'd prefer to answer via e:mail, just take the zero out of my return address. jj

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Jerry
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I don't know how fast you expect it to work, but I've got a plug-type heater in my VW Rabbit diesel, and it takes a pretty long time to warm the engine up. On the order of at least a couple hours.

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Johann Koenig

I had a '72 I.H. 4X4 when we lived on the Jicarillo Apache reservation and I installed a in-line heater called the "Chinook" which is no longer made. It worked fine since the I.H. had manual controls for the heater which your '85 Toy should have too. ( my '87 is also manual) It worked great down to 50°F below zero with an old sleeping bag draped over the engine.

The Chinook had two flapper valves that percolated the coolant through the heater and engine block. If you have found one like this please post back as I would like to buy one.

The designer of the Chinook said they went out of business because of the advent of vacuum controls which kept it from working right.

Jarhead

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Jarhead

While not the same vehicle, I have the freeze plug-type heater installed on '03 Tundra and am very satisfied. What it does is warm things up enough that there are no ticking sounds on start-up, and the fast idle kicks off within a minute or so. It dosen't blow warm air right away, but it's faster than without. Anyway, it seems to do what I wanted- minimize effects of cold morning starts on the engine.

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dg

The heater had been plugged in for about 4-5 hours. jj

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Jerry

Thanks for the response. I will let you know if I hear of a Chinook heater becomes available. The the fellow at the parts store told me that this kind would not work because of the vacuum control heater. I didn't/don't know the difference; hence my questions. Thanks again. jj

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Jerry

What brand heater are you using? How many watts does it put out? jj

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Jerry

I have a 400w block heater package (block, oil, transmission) on my '03 4x2 Tundra SR5. I plug it in every night in the winter once we hit 20 above for a night time high (in interior Alaska with an average daytime high temperature of -20 or so actual). Except at higher temperatures, the block heater is going to have a minimal if any effect on how fast your engine and core will heat up and start blowing hot air into the cab.

The purpose of a black heater isn't to keep your eng>>

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Raksashan

They still make that style, but that company (Chinook) might have gone belly up because they couldn't market to consumers - that's the type of block heater regularly used on fire trucks and standby diesel generators so they'll fire reliably on the first pull.

If I needed one, I'd get the thermostatically controlled "Tank Heater" version and just leave it plugged in all night, rather than trying to set a timer for a 4-hour pre-heat. Plus, what happens if someone gets sick and you need to go someplace at 2 AM?

You can bypass the vacuum heater valve to get water circulating through the heater core, or just install Y's in the heater hoses, skip running the car heater and just let it keep the block warm overnight.

When you start the car the coolant will be warm enough to get heater output pretty fast. Or get one of those Ceramic Furnace style 120V electric space heaters (something that doesn't get too hot in operation) and set it on a hunk of ceramic tile on the car floor - that one would benefit from a timer set to Commute Minus One Hour.

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Reply to
Bruce L. Bergman

Pyroil, 400w I think. I purchased it from the Toy dealer and had them install it too.

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dg

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