Idle Problems with 22RE

Jun 28, 2003 3 Replies

Hi, I have a '93 Toyota pickup with the 4 cylinder 22RE engine and about



110,000 miles on it. Anyway the engine is idling rough. It is almost a rhythmic idle (speeds up slows down) in a way you could almost set your watch to. It speeds up even worse if I turn on the A/C making it idle faster. I took it into a Toyota dealer and they told me it was the throttle body and it needed to be replaced. Unfortunately throttle body's run $600 new and can't be rebuilt according to several other fuel injector/carb shops around town here. The throttle body is a disposable unit basically. I called all the salvage yards here also and no one has a used throttlebody. I don't even know if this is really the problem anyway. They ran a diagnostic and cleaned the throttle body and came to this conclusion and of course a expensive one at that. It also sounds like it might be a vacuum leak and have tried spraying carb cleaner on all the vacuum line to see if the engine would idle faster momentarily and nothing happened. I first noticed this problem right after they did a rebuild back at 58,000 miles done by Toyota under warranty. Back then it only did it when I turned on the A/C on. Now it does it almost all the time with he A/C on or not. It also starts to act up when I press on the brake pedal. This all screams vacuum leak to me but I have tried everything and hell if I'm going to hand over anymore and replace the throttle body. I have talked to several fuel injector rebuild shops around town and had one place even look at it and they all seems to think it is not the throttle body. I don't what to do. The truck runs great in every way otherwise. I even felt sure enough to take it on a long 1,000 mile trip two weeks ago. It's just when I'm sitting at a stop light and the guy next to me thinks I want to race him because the engine is reving up and down like I'm doing it myself. Sorry, I realize this is a long post I just wanted to give everyone enough information to work with. Any help would be much appreciated!!!

Thanks in advance,



Carey


Check the Throttle Position Sensor:

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I had a cyclic surge that almost drove me crazy. Happened when I had the AC on, at idle, with the brake pedal depressed. Played with vacuum system, found it got worse if a leak was introduced. I searched for a leak, found none, then after I fooled with hoses going to valve on side of power steering pump, the problem went away. So, I would look for vacuum leaks and stuck vacuum valvves. Also, the Car Talk boys on NPR once got this question and immediately said it was a leaking power brake booster. It could be. But since it wasn't in my case be sure before you buy a new booster.

If it happens w/ A/C on (or using the power steering at idle) you likely have the A/C idle up valve adjusted wrong and/or the A/C amplifier set wrong. There is a vacuum switching valve (VSV) that is turned on w/ A/C use at idle to boost the idle speed. There is also the A/C amp that senses engine RPM and cuts the A/C if the idle gets too low. The idle up control is the white plastic knob on top of the intake plenum, A/C amp is behind the glove box.

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