Lug Nuts Question

Nov 26, 2005 8 Replies

I recently purchased a set of Toyota rims that came on a 02 Sequoia. These are the split 5 spoke 'mags'. In order to mount these rims on my 98 PreRunner I had to purchase new lug nuts, which I purchased at a local Kragen's..



When installing the rims the 'shank' of the lug nut bottom's out on the axle (in back) and rotor (in front) without the wheel becoming snugged up.



Apparently - these are the wrong lug nuts for this vehicle. Differences do exist. Long story shorter, Until I can obtain the 'correct' lug nuts, would it hurt to either:



A. Install a wheel spacer (approx 3/16")



or



B. Use additional washers.



If 'B' is viable, would lock washers be acceptable. Which leads me to another question, why aren't lock washers (split washers) used in this area?


I think the ideal solution would be to wait until you get the correct lug nuts but, I wouldn't be afraid to use a spacer as this used to be a commom fix for wheels that had a slightly incorrect offset. I would not use washers as they are usually not 100% uniform in thickness and will put high pressures with somewhat sharp edges because of this. Lock washers are not a good choice as they scrape metal every time you remove them and if the wheels are alloy lock washers will scrape a lot of metal off when removing. If Kragen's can't get you the correct lug nuts, I've found them online by Googling and they should be available from a salvage yard. HTH, davidj92

Gorilla and others make the washers to compensate for extra length of the lug nut. The Yota lug nuts have a captured waher built into them. The yota nuts are of course preferred but probably 4x the cost of generic nuts. Thin spacers are ok but for the cost you could get the proper nuts. Be sure to periodically tighten the lug nuts as they have a tendency to loosen

Thanks David and Wolfgang....

Re: lock washers - Hadn't considered the abuse the sharp edges of the lock washer would inflict. Good point!

Re: spacers - cost is not a factor as I had a set laying around off my 82 Toy 4x4 (long since departed).

Yes, obtaining the correct lug nut is paramount, but, oh my, the dealer price is mighty steep! - I'll look online

Rick

Check eBay for either original or imitation Toyota lug nuts. They must have the flat washer.

Ken

Don't remember where as it's been 4 years but, I found lugnuts online for appx $50 for all lugnuts plus shipping. Quite a bit cheaper than the appx $4 each from the dealer. Friend found some at a salvage yard for $2 each a couple years ago. HTH, davidj92

Both A and B are poor choices. The better option would be to buy lug nuts that are open so the wheel bolt can fit all of the way through. Or, since this means you have to buy another set of lug nuts, you may as well buy some that are long enough, or at least buy a set that fits.

If you take into accound what stressess that your wheels endure while on the roads spend some money and buy the RIGHT ones, if they are to expensive shop arpound, DONT SKIMP on this sort of stuff, the wrong ones will not only be dangerous but if found to a factor in a crash your insurance may be void.

From the safety perspective, the lug nuts can ge either open OR long enough. They can't be too short and closed.

From a visually inviting perspective, the lug nuts should be closed if they are not hidden by wheel covers.

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