Several questions about my 1971 bug

Question 1:

The turn signals on my 1971 bug haven't worked properly since I bought it. I swapped out the bulbs, but that doesn't seem to fix everything. All in all, the details of their behaviour are far to erratic to explain. I decided I should probably swap out the relays before I go and spend a lot of time measuring and thinking. However, neither Muir nor my Haynes guide tell me what kind of relays I need. I suppose I could take the old ones into the parts store and ask them to give me the same ones, but I have a slight suspicion that the previous owner messed it all up (for one thing, some of the relay sockets are empty).

Does anyone know what kind of relays to get? My car is the Aug '71 line, with VIN 1122******.

Question 2:

The same 1971 bug has a funny, tiny "custom" steering wheel in it. This looks funny and makes the car harder to drive. Others would say I don't have an appreciation for art.

Also, there is nothing that operates the horn. Now as far as I know, the horn is operated normally with a button on the steering wheel, right?

If I find a standard steering wheel, how hard is it to get it to work _including horn switch_? Would it be much harder than installing a little switch somewhere, and hooking it straight to some $7 noise-making device? I am all in favour of trying to avoid modifications, but I figure I may prefer abiding by the law as soon as possible.

Question 3:

The steering has some "play" right around "straight ahead". I have discovered that 80% of the freeways in LA have enough of a curve to them that I can drive quite safely, but on the other 20%, this gets a little scary. I've been told that this is probably the steering box. Any work that cannot be done in a driveway in a few hours is outside of my scope. The local VW mechanic says he knows how to fix it, but it might be hard to get a replacement steering box. I suggested that I just order one from JC Whitney's. He says that those units are normally refurbished and may not work any better than the current one. Is he just trying to sell me an expensive replacement part, or is he right and are JC Whitney's steering boxes crap indeed?

Question 4:

Sometimes, I have trouble shifting. Before I moved to California, I learned to drive in The Netherlands in a stick shift Opel, and even drove my mom's Diane around some, so I think I can claim it's not my fault. First of all, the shifting is generally very sloppy. Is it indeed true that this can probably be fixed by replacing the bushing under the stick?

Also, it has trouble going into second gear. Supposedly, this is because the 2nd synchro is worn. Also supposedly, one can get around that by using the 3rd gear synchro. It does indeed help to push the stick to the right first (as if shifting into third) and then to second. However, sometimes that doesn't do the trick. Does anyone have any more tips on how to work around this problem?

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Jaap Weel
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Your name sounds dutch, are you dutch? funny, Im currently livin in the Netherlands. Anyway, your problems sound very familiar to me and my dutch bugs...

Jaap Weel wrote in this freaking newsgroup:

My experience with turn signals says the following, get yourself an electric diagram of your year and model, lots of patience and follow all the stupid wires everywhere until you probably find a bad connection. If all the connections are clean and tight, and battery provides an steady current, then you can think about replacing the relay. With the electric diagram you will also find out if you are actually missing relays or not. My bugs have also extra space for extra relays the owner may want to install, but that doesn't mean that some relays are missing. If eventually you need relays, you will find the very right ones at

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they are nice guys (they say so).

It is very easy to change steering wheel, just remove the 27 nut from the "artistic" one and put a standart one. If the steering wheel is ok, connecting the horn will be a breeze, again I advise you to take a look at the wiring diagram, it is sometimes a bitch but it will pay off in the future.

I'm not familiar with JC Whitney's products, the american guys can give you good directions for quality replacements but changing the steering box is not complicated at all, you just need jackstands and a decent set of tools. It is definitively a job that can be done in the driveway (I did it there too!). I believe Haynes and Muir have directions on this.

Either you take the gear box to an expert ($$$), become an expert yourself (time) or get used to it (free). As someone said once all problems have solutions if you have two of the following three: time, money and knowledge. sorry I cannot help you further. Enjoy!

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Ant

There is only one "relay", aka Flasher. They rarely go bad. Do some testing: When signalling LEFT, do both sides flash? Same for RIGHT. Do left and right flash at the same rate? When using the 4-way Hazard switch, do all 4 lamps flash?

If flash rate is different, or some lamps look dimmer, check the grounding wires for each assembly. The front lamps have a Brw ground wire screwed into the body, near the fuel tank. The rear tail lights each have a Brw wire with a push-on connector loacted behind the tar board in the engine bay.

There is information on my web site about the turn signal/hazard wiring.

Also, check the fuses. There are 2 fuses, one for turn signals and one for Hazards. Even if the fuses "look" good, change them and clean the fuse holder contacts. Bad fuse connectiosn often make erratic operation.

Speedy Jim

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Speedy Jim

For starters, stay away from JCWhitney as your primary parts supplier. Instead, try purchasing from better vendors such as:

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Aircooled.net is well known for their quick and informative advice via email. The link is available on their website. John C. can help you out with choosing the correct parts that you need.

Second, you can do most of the work yourself on your VW if you so choose, but you need some better reference materials to go by, such as the Official Service Manual (published by Robert Bentley Publishing, available from most of the VW parts suppliers). It should contain the correct wiring diagrams for you car. Use it along with the Haynes manual (which usually has good pictures) and Muir.

New steering boxes are indeed still available. You can get them from

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or any number of places. The are usually TRW brand.

As far as your turn signals, make sure that everything is grounded properly. The grounds for the turn signals may have a poor connection which would lead to the erractic operation. Of course, it could be your relay also.

Hope this helps. Be sure to use this newsgroup with any questions. There are lots of people here with a ton of VW knowledge and experiance.

Dane '69 Bug '63 Bug

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DougnKaren

Dyane? As in Citroen? THAT ROCKS!

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Ben Boyle

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