84 firebird brake fitting from hell

I am having trouble getting the brake fitting off the rear wheel cylinder. I have tried vice grips, brake clean, and alot of harsh language... it is pretty much rounded off now, any ideas? do I have to replace the whole
brake line if the fitting will not come off? thanks -Sam
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Can you get to it to drill it out? also they have these sockets called, nut busters? (I think, anyone else help here?) its basically a socket with a buncha teeth in it that goes from big to small, and it just sinks its teeth into it to let you turn it out, ive had some success with it, but I'd get some more ideals from these guys before you use my ideals as I tend to have a temper and fire up the torch.

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I can't... it is screwed into the back of the wheel cylinder... so only an open ended wrench or vice grips can get to it.
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Take apart the brakes:
Open up the wheel cylinder and heat the cylinder, from the rear. Around the area where the line threads in.
That's the only way to remove a severely seized in line flare nut.
Refinish King

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You didn'y use a flare ended wrench, did you? That's why you rounded off the nut.
-Bruce
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Even if he would have:
And it wasn't a Snap On, it most likely would have rounded. S-K at the very least below a Snap On may have done it, but some are so seized. Not even a pipe wrench would do it.
Fire wrench my friend!
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ok, I got the fitting off.... but at the cost of the brake line... the fitting would not turn freely around the brake line so it was a lost cause unless I had a torch. so my question now is can I put a new fitting on the remaining brake line? (there is plenty of slack) or do I hafta go to a brake shop.
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That brake line is wasted, throw it out. You need a double flaring tool to fix it right, it will be very hokey for you to fix.
Take the line off at the other end. Call up Fine Lines, Classic Tube or Inline tube and tell them what you need. They sell prebent lines and offer them in stainless. You won't be able to tell it from the part you pulled off, they will be dead on exact.
Replace all the questionable lines. You'd be suprised how cheap it is in comparison to screwing around with an old line.
You could fashion your own line out of auto parts store tubing, but it's easier to buy the right line and install it :).
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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If you have a double flare tool;
You can splice in a double flare coupler. no compression unions, many people use them, but would you trust your car and your ass to a cheap fix?
Then add a piece of line and bend as required.
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King:
You can buy a prebent line with the right fittings. Just screw it in---done! There are many companies out there that make these and will even reproduce your line if you send it to them---even broken.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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I saw that post you made:
Thanks for the info. No more bending lines for me!
Customers think you robbed them when you give them a bill to replace the line from the master back to the rubber line, the rubber line and across the rear?
Thanks again for the valuable info, I can buy the lines pre-bent for an hours worth of labor.
Sincerely,
Refinish King

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I ordered the fuel pump to carb line for the '79 from Classic (I forget, it was one of them). One company sent me the wrong line--mistake in their catalog.
They sent me the right line when I described it and admitted they had an error in their catalog. When the guy said, "That 400 line has a VERY long straight section going into the carb, right?" I knew they knew the err of their ways. LOL.
It was like $18, it's all stainless and it installed in five minutes time. Looks great.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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ok, got the new fitting installed, had enough line close by to get a good fit to the wheel cyclinder. now my problem is I cannot get my drum over the new shoes. My only guess is that I need to loosen the bleeder valve as to relieve pressure and compress the brake assembly. Sound right? am I missing something?
thanks guys.. I appreciate all the help... -Sam
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 22:07:54 -0400, "royonic"

Have you closed the auto adjusters all the way closed?
...Ron -- 68' Camaro RS 88' Firebird Formula 00' Mustang GT Vert
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yeah, the star wheel is all the way in. I have everything together now, the drum barely fit... now the wheel does not turn.. does the drum need turned down some, the pads are pretty thick. Also, my new fitting I put on is leaking when I try to bleed the brakes, is my flare crooked?
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I think you were the guy with the stuck brake line on the wheel cylinder on an '84 Firebird (or thereabouts) from last week?
THROW THE OLD LINE OUT AND GET A NEW ONE PREFITTED FROM FINE LINES, CLASSIC TUBE OR INLINE TUBE!!!!!!!!!!
Don't mess with old lines!!!! Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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On 27 Jun 2004 23:12:07 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Bigjfig) wrote:

Speaking of old lines, I just had to replace one of mine on my 88' Birds disc rear, as well as the rotors and pads. You'd think that GM would have come up with a better design for the parking brake assembly. I had one heck of a time freeing up the auto- emergency brake adjusters. I went the old fashioned way to replace the line though, by buying a stick of 3/16 tubing and fitting it into place, I even used the old spring and it came out pretty nice. One note of warning on replacing brake lines. Don't attempt it without the correct flaring tools as there are different styles of flares as well as metric and standard fittings.
...Ron -- 68' Camaro RS 88' Firebird Formula 00' Mustang GT Vert
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