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Oh I see them ALL the time... Or should I see parts and pieces of them... Usually that pretty burgundy color.. whats it called? Oh yeah rust. The Iola car show had some REALLY pretty ones... One for sale, 455 (Cant
remember if it was SD or not)... was Silver with a Phoenix on the hood (Pealing off) Wanted 1500 for it.. need some work, but the engine ran nice and was actually fairly quiet.. Took the kid like 15 mins to remember how to pop the hood.. it was amusing to say the least.. I wasn't gonna tell him.. since he was like 14 and "Knew everything about the car" LOL... said the rear brakes went out so no one could drive it away.. had to trailer it if they wanted it.
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Possibly "Carmine Red" among others depending on the year and color we're talking about.
Here in the NYC burbs, you do see them, but they are rough or off the road. LOL. I pass a LOT full of them in Brooklyn on the way home in a pretty industrial area. I had seen the '81 gold 4.9 vin W the guy has driving around about 2 years ago. Didn't sound bad at all. He's got a mix of 2nd and third gens in various stages of disarray in there. LOL.
When I think of WI, I think of good cheese for a sandwich and rust. LOL. I saw a Ford Tempo from WI on the highway in NYC once and I couldn't believe how rusty it was. Totally shot. LOL.
I guess WI brings to mind Janesville (a Chevy assembly plant) which is where the current C,K truck line is made (among other plants). My grandfather's 1979 Caprice was made there and my sister's 2002 Tahoe is from there as well.
If I were buying a Tahoe today, I'd tell the salesperson if it didn't come from an American plant, I wouldn't want it.
Back in 1992, I was at a local show when I saw a guy looking at my '80 Turbo. I went up to him, chatted for a while and then we exchanged handshakes and he gave me his business card.
Fast forward to 2002. My friend tells me a friend of a friend has a '81 T/A that I could strip parts off it if I wanted down at this local stereo shop near the Home Depot in my area. I got the addy and went to the place. Out comes this guy about my age, Greek guy, and right away I said "You're the guy that was checking out my car back in '92 at the local show".
He was like, "Yea, that's me. I remember your car, it was a unique one". Nice guy, we run into each other now and then and help each other out.
He's a dyed in the wool Poncho powered 2nd generation guy for sure. I made his day by giving him a spare owner's manual for a 1979 I had. LOL.
I picked that 1981 pretty clean :). Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going.... '91 S10 Blazer 4.3Z
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Lol... small world isn't it? I'm starting to really get involved with these cars.. been going to a few showws here and there... wish I could afford to go to the T/A Nats again this year, but thats not going to happen probably. But about WI.. yeah.. its all the damn Salt they throw on the roads. I swear if you go out after a snow sotorm, you could actually BATHE in the salt thats on the road. Salt + Metal F-bodies = UH OH no car. <sigh> One of the reasons I am LONG gone after graduation.. just haven't decided where to go to yet.. I can't stand California, Cold/Winter, Tornados, Huirricanes, or sand storms.. LOL.. which pretty much means I can't go anywhere. Oh and the Janesville place.. that wasn't General Motors Truck that you are talking about huh? If so, I got my rear hatch and front impact bar from a guy that was stripping down 2 GTAs from just around the corner.. lol For $16 for a tinted rear hatch and a front bar I wouldn't beat that.. lol. Speaking of which, I still have to go pick up that hatch...
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Joe would use USED parts? Dies! Charles

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Its COMMON KNOWLEDGE that the base 77-78 Pontiac 400 was 180HP and the 1977 W72 Pontiac 400 was rated at 200HP and the 1978-1979 W72 Pontiac 400 was rated at 220HP. Whatever book you're reading, throw it out because its worthless.
There are actually quite a few base 180HP Pontiac 400/automatic 77-78 Trans Ams around. Just look for the painted valve covers. I have yet to see a 403 equipped 77-78 T/A but they were made and more common in California and high altitude regions.
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Ok, you've got scrambled eggs here :).
A couple of things:
1) A 403 is an Oldsmobile motor, a 400 is a Pontiac motor. Different animals. Both were used in a 1978 Trans Am. The Olds motor is a pig in stock form, but a reliable motor. You'll know if you have an Olds motor---there will be a large tube in the front which is the oil fill. A Pontiac engine has the oil filler on the LH valve cover in 1978.
2) There were two 400's in 1978. The T/A could have either. The 180 hp is the low performance one. The 220 hp motor is a T/A 6.6 which is a better version of that 180 motor. High Performance Pontiac just did a series on this motor about an issue or two ago. You might want to read it.
3) I can identify what you have if you tell me what #s you have on it. There will be a partial VIN # stamp down behind the timing cover on the RH of the block and there will be a two/three digit suffix/assembly code up top (something like WC, WH, PWH) by the RH cylinder head. Post those and I'll tell you what it is.
4) The TH400 is not the original 1978 Trans Am tranny, it would have been a TH350. The THM400 would have been paired with another motor.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going.... '91 S10 Blazer 4.3Z
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Ok, well, I am just going by what the chick has told me.. and by the ad online. It said good running Pontiac 400 with Turbo 400 transmission $200 or trade for 305. Then I icalled and she talked to a guy there and said it came out of a 78 T/A and he put it in his '86 T/A. I looked in my "Pontiac We build Excitement" book and those were the three engines for that year, and I knew the 403 was the Olds motor.. and I am hoping its not it.. I haven't seen it yet. Should be able to in a week or two though.. he has to take it out of the car first. But when I see it, I will post the numbers. Thanks.
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Well, I just got the F-body Cds last night, (one for 3rd gen Pontiac, and one for 3rd gen Chevy) They have blow ups of the parts, the names, and part numbers to most of everything.. its pretty nice... except for my damn ALTERNATOR PULLEY!! Grr.. it lists it as one piece (Pulley and the alt), but I can buy the bolts seperately.. how idiotic is that? Oh well... if Joe can't find me something, I'll just wait till the damn belt breaks then worry about it then. lol
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There is a chance that the pulley is NOT serviced separately, but I want to look for myself in the GM OEM parts data, not some "rip off" of the real thing :).
As I mentioned, the CS130 Delco alternator in my 89 Cavalier (which was originally my grandparent's car) is not serviceable, yet Delco offers a reman alternator (I put one in there for them in 1998 or so when they owned the car).
Let's see what the General has to say :). Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going.... '91 S10 Blazer 4.3Z
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Yeah, the CD shows 2 reman Generators... one with K60 part # 10463099 and one with K99 part # 10463086.. What do the K60 and K99 mean?
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They are option codes for the generator outputs. One is probably the standard output, one is heavy duty output.
Generally, if the car has a rear window defogger, you'll have the "heavy duty" version installed.
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Yep, I got that option in the car.
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The GM parts system says that the vehicle should have an 85A alternator. Also, the alternator is not serviced (according to GM).
Get a part # off the pulley on there and let's see what we can find.
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Even though the one on there isn't correct? Its just too bad none of the salvage yeards around here have anything decent.. only fricken imports and suvs.
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The correct alternator is not broken down/serviced according to GM. Usually, when you buy a reman Delco alternator, it's an upgrade from the original.
For instance, the one in my '79 is a 63A from the factory. However, if you buy a Delco reman replacement, it's 78A now and looks a bit different.
Same with your car. If you give me the stamping # on the unit that's in there now, I may be able to figure out what it was originally intended to be installed on.
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OOOH... sounds like a plan to me. I'll give my ex a call and see if she can find it for me.
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She says the part number is 92-7198 Does that help?
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No, that sounds like a part # for an aftermarket reman alternator from Nastra Industries or one of the off the shelf rebuilders.
You want the # stamped into the case. It will start with 1, something like 1103010, 1102052, etc.
That's the Delco production #.
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Hmm.. thats the number she said she could findd on it.. shes sleeping now.. so I'll try again tomorrow. Anywhere special on the case she should look?
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If it's a crud-rebuilder (you know what I mean Joe), likely the case halfs are what may work. Not orginals, hek the front half or rear half may be GM with a tiawan other half. Like Duralast brand. Charles
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