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- 07-29-2010
July 29, 2010, 1:03 pm
it is amazing all the posts about how many miles on battery or engine etc.
There has not been one post that has any truth to it except 40 miles on
battery and 250 miles with the gasoline engine charging the battery. the
whole 290 in on the electric motor, I have not seen one offical post on
total MPG..
Everything else on this group is total BS or speculation, or just smart ass
remarks from the trolls
Re: Volt
You can read the Chevrolet claims at:
http://www.chevrolet.com/pages/open/default/future/volt.do?seo=goo_ |_2009_Chevy_Awareness_|_IMG_Chevy_Volt_Phase_2_Branded_|_Chevrolet_Volt_|_chevrolet_volt
A few of the Q&A:
Volt is an electric vehicle with a range extender. Well, what does that
mean? It means Volt runs on electricity from its battery, and then it runs
on electricity it creates from gas. Let's assume you have a fully charged
battery. Now, depending on the weather, the electrical features that are
turned on and how you drive, you can drive up to 40 miles on the electricity
stored in the battery - totally gas and emissions free. After that, its
gas-powered, range-extending generator automatically kicks in to provide
electrical power. So Volt can go for several hundred additional miles, until
you can plug it in or fill it up again.
Will I always get 40 miles on an electric charge?
No. Like any electric vehicle, Volt's electric miles per charge will vary.
Like all vehicles, electric vehicles are less efficient in extremely hot or
cold temperatures. In addition to outside temperatures, use of features like
air conditioning and heat, personal driving style, additional cargo in the
vehicle and the age of the battery will affect the electric range.
What happens if I travel more than 40 miles?
Once the initial electric charge is depleted, the range-extending gas engine
will kick in to seamlessly generate enough energy to continue to power the
car for hundreds of additional miles.
What happens if the battery is not fully charged?
You won't have to worry about having enough time to fully charge Volt. A
partially charged battery will work until it runs out, then the gas-powered
electric generator will seamlessly kick in to provide electricity and extend
your range up to 300 miles until you can plug in again or you can refuel.
How much does Volt cost to charge?
Electricity is an extremely affordable way to power a car - the average
American pays less than 12 cents per kilowatt hour. If the average American
drives less than 40 miles, it will cost about $1.50 a day for electricity.
That's about the same annual cost as running a common household appliance.
To save even more, some utility companies recommend charging overnight for
off-peak rates and may even offer incentives to customers who do so.
What happens if I never charge the battery?
You'll probably spend more money on gas than you need to, but Volt will run
just fine. Just remember that you'll only get the full benefits of owning a
Volt if you charge it routinely.
How long does Volt take to charge?
In about ten hours, you'll have a fully charged Volt waiting for you, ready
to go. You can also install a 240V outlet, which can charge Volt in as
little as four hours.
How much interior room does Volt have?
Volt will carry four adults comfortably. The hatchback design provides
surprising flexibility for larger cargo. <if my comfortably, Chevrolet mean
being jammed into a spam can, then I guess this is true>
What makes the Volt battery unique?
The Volt battery is designed for long life and to be reliable. Each battery
pack is made up of more than 200 rectangular cells arranged in a
series-parallel configuration. Computer systems monitor the battery cells to
make sure everything is working correctly.
Re: Volt
As this car is released in Europe next year called the Opel Ampere or
here the Vauxhall Ampere, the question that I'd like the answer to is,
What happens if I only normally use the car around town and the internal
combustion engine never starts, then I suddenly want to go on a journey
that takes me farther than the batteries, how do I know the engine will
start after a prolonged period of being stationary? Does any one know
if it's possible to start the engine to test it or keep it freed up in
the case where it isn't used for extended lengths of time?
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Clive
Re: Volt
On 29/07/2010 2:20 PM, Clive wrote:
GM will give you a governemtn supplied $500 pull cord to start the gas
engine. You know, the kind found on Muncie engines circa 1950's and
1960's. Relics you can cherish long fter the Volt is gone.
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Re: Volt
OK so now we only get 30 miles or so and need a charge. They claim $1.50 a
day, but here in New England, it is closer to 18˘ or more for that kWh. The
1.50 becomes 2.25 to go 30 miles. Many cars can get 30 mpg so it is about
the same as paying 2.25 versus today's gas of 2.70 here. or a savings of 45˘
a day. If you commute 30 miles a day, 5 days a week you save 2.25 a week or
$113 year. The premium for a Volt over other 30 mpg cars is easily $10,000.
Wow, the payback is a mere 88 years.
Re: Volt
I don't think anyone is trolling, it's just that there is no proper
information out there, so everyone has to guess at what might be.
Perhaps it would be better, as with a lot of petrol or diesel cars, to
put out the electric motor bhp and the wheel bhp when being driven by
the engine as electric transmissions on locomotives are only 85%
efficient so I suspect this might be.
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Clive
Re: Volt
On 30/07/2010 4:53 PM, hls wrote:
Me, I look at TCO, total cost of ownership. It includes everything from
tires, maintenace, electricity, fuel, usability and utility.
If I have to rent a car for $100/day so I can drive around Vegas and
vicinity for a week, becase the Volt's A/C is NA... get the drift?
Cheaper to own a F150, the first 100,000 miles of fuel is free for
capital cost differnece alone. Resale is even better and A/C and heat
actually work. And charges faster with gasoline, get 450 miles to a
charge no problem.
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We are all self-made, but only the rich will admit it.
Re: Volt
The Jap car buyer like to refer to TCO. What the fail to understand is one
of the factors to determine TCO is MSRP. Industry statistics have show
fro years that the typical import buy pays a whopping 20 to 30% MORE to
drive home the vehicle than of the had purchased a domestic vehicle of
similar size and equipment. I know that when I was in retail we charged a
much higher shop rate in our foreign band name stores as well. ;)
Re: Volt
More accurately, what do you get after say 5 years for a Toyota or Honda
versus a GM?
GMs resale is the worst, second worst only to Chrysler.
So if I pay $5k more for a new Toyota or Honda and get $10k more in
trade in compared to a GM POC, that is a somehow a good deal for a GMer?
On 01/08/2010 7:37 AM, Mike wrote:
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In Alberta, Liberals are like rats, not many of them around.
Re: Volt
On 29/07/2010 11:03 AM, Tom wrote:
Part of the problem is GM isn't releasing real hard assed factual
numbers, just hyperbole. For example, do you have the precise terms for
the battery warranty? Like what happens if the battery only holds a 5
mile range charge? Or consumes too much electricity to be economical
but otherwise works? At precisely what point will GM replace the thing?
In technical point, my 6 year old laptop battery still works. It lasts
10 minutes, required 4 hours to charge. Waste of weight really. But so
sad, no warranty here.
Then we can get into issues such as behavioral issues. Ok, you drive 20
miles on an old battery, the engine kicks in byt you drive another 100
miles.
At what point can we expect the vehicle to slow down from normal freeway
speeds? Th generator is incapable of providing the wattage needed to
maintain full speed, so what happens when the battery hits a zero
reserve? Does it come with a pull cord to start the gas engine if the
batteries go right out? Especially important as I thought I heard,
correctly or not, the gas engine cannot charge the batteries.
Think, next up will be lawsuits. Well GM didn't say if I was going
75mph on I75 that the vehicle would suddenly drop to 45mph -- oops --
lawsuit.
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We are all self-made, but only the rich will admit it.
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