Morons

They do it when I'm driving a bus as well. Considering it weighs 10-15 times thier puny little eurobox, you'd think they'd resist trying to cut through at small roundabouts on my offside.

Alex

Try driving up to a roundabout in a 110, headlights flashing, blue roof bar going, blue strobe lights on the front grille, along with a yelp/wail siren and occasional air horn, only to see almost all the traffic stop, apart from the fella in the ford who sees this as his opportunity to nip out in front of you to get throught the traffic using the gap being made for you!

The general standard of driving seems to be becoming more aggressive and insular imho, with fewer and fewer people checking in their rearview mirrors. I have been driving behind two cars, when the furthest away pulls in after seeing you, and the one you are directly behind sees this as his chance to get by!

When we did our response driving training, one of the first lessons was 'predicting the numpty factor' The next one was 'why you can never predict the numpty factor'

Saw a creaking one today a merc mini people box thing tried to pull out infront of a bus who was not quite quick enough to get out the way :-) result one slightly narrowed merc missing the front drivers side front end and not a scratch on the railings it was wedged against, poor poor merc :-)

Had one of these last not long back with lights and siren and the only numpty that decided not to move was a guy in a merc hell I see a patern here with merc drivers that would not get out the way and then looked at me when I did get past as if to say whats the hurry then again he was the wrong side of 65 to be let loose on the roads.

Yes standards of driving have gone down the drain it should be in the hazard perseption thing there teaching people now put them in lots and lots and lots of different types of junction and teach them how to get out the way I work as a driver for a livining in Liverpool city and most nights on the way through town back to base I have one of the emergency services trying to get through and most people dont even notice a bloody big red fire engine coming up behind them even had one guy tell me to f^£k off before now while I was swinging on the horn and flashing my headlights to shift the git until he realise there was an ambo with police escort trying to get through he went a bit red and sort of said sorry, no merc this time but a micra there just as bad lol

Still reckon they should shove people on a skid pan for a few days and teach them hi speed driving on motorways and limited to what they can drive for so long or grade the licence like they do on bikes.

Just my £2 erm more like a fiver sorry

Paul

Had an Audi A4 cut me up badly at the roundabout at the bottom of Egham Hill, he used a turn right lane to get in front. I'm used to stupid "get past at all costs" Audi's when I'm in the BMW but I was in the S111, about 2 inches max I guess and that's with me doing an emergency slow down. Roundabout leads onto a dual carriageway so he saved maybe a couple of seconds.

On or around Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:14:42 -0000, "Paul Henry" enlightened us thusly:

a system like the bike tests and licences would be an excellent plan for cars and much more effective than a lot of "solutions" people come up with.

basic off-road manoeuvring course first, then on-road supervised training, then for young drivers a restricted licence (say up to a 1.4l car) for 2 years. Older drivers could do the same kind of direct access training, learning in a bigger car with an instructor etc.

mind, I bet it'd not get enforced.

I think I was lucky when I learnt to drive. Living out in the country, and a half-hour each way into town, driving under instruction. So I was getting more than the purely urban driving of the actual test.

But the "adequate progress" rule needs looking at, I think. You've got inexperienced drivers being encouraged to press on so as to pass the test, and then they get out of town with little experience of the difference speed makes.

"Speed kills" maybe has a lot to do with that.

Only problem with that kind of thing is that while it should bring people to a certain level of proficiency, it won't necessarily change their attitudes enough to stop them from being ignorant gits.

- Andrew

On or around Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:25:53 -0000, "Andrew" enlightened us thusly:

not all of 'em, no. But if it resulted in 20% fewer gits on the road, it'd be a start.

You'd be surprised what reactions you get in a 101 - even one like Grumble which is, erm, a tad bigger that the norm. Bus, Taxi and lorry drivers pull over. BMW drivers have a deathwish - and I'm generally happy to help them in their quest for an early grave.

Martyn

The problem is, having seen Grumble, if I ever got a 101, I couldn't be doing with the standard mini-sized ones :) If you ever decide to sell (ha ha) you have my number.

I'm toying with the idea of getting a 110 next year for the return trip to Iceland. Very practical on the grounds of numbers of seats and amount of space. Anybody kitted a 101 out as a passenger carrier? You'd need side doors for the insurance... or a stanley knife to cut through the canvas.

David

Try leaving a safe stopping gap in busy rush hour Melbourne traffic.

The lights change and three numpties decide that your space is there space.

Slam on airbrakes blue smoke off umpteen now flatspotted tyres

and the third numpty has to go home and change his undies. :-)

All this in a 62.5 tonne 25 metre 600hp. B-double semi.

Ah yes, and a very, very good job they've done too:

Martyn

I'd _really_ like to see that - even more, I'd like to _drive_ that.

Panders to my evil streak ;-)

Martyn

If he wants to sell, let me know...

What - and miss the opportunity for free junkets to the Isle of Sky?

On or around Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:17:59 -0000, "David French" enlightened us thusly:

the balloon-bloke has a nice one on 20" wheels... I daresay a link to his site will surface somewhere.

Skye

P.

Beggerfeck, I do apologise!

I'm afraid the site is a little out of date as it's had a fair bit of work done since those pictures. Anyway, it's at

Mine is done out with bench seats around the outsides to seat 12 in the back, plus the two up front (in Recaros :-))

Malcolm.