> I saw a picture of the new TOYOTA VENZA in a magazine.
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> Curious, I looked up the specs at their website.
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> MY GOD !!..... they've invented "The Station Wagon" !
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> Remember station wagons ?
> They were the all American family hauler.
> And then, Detroit let them die.
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> Maybe we'll start to see station wagons again
> instead of SUV's and Soccer Vans......
Toyota doesn't call the Vensa a Station Wagon. Toyota refers to the Vensa as a "Sedan." They call it's "twin" the Lexus RX, a crossover (just like the Ford Taurus X / Freestyle). Weird. I guess calling something a station wagon is death on the product.
It's like a game of rock, scissors, & paper. The station wagon could carry more than a sedan at the expense of a little loss in gas milage and performance. The minivan could carry more than the station wagon and gave the driver greater visibility. The SUV had more power than the minivan and could haul larger trailers with the advantage of 4WD. The crossover SUV increased the gas milage. And now the crossover SW has even better gas milage and performance.
Customers want acceleration, good gas milage, good handling, seating, cargo space, hauling ability, stopping ability, crashworthiness, and luxury in varying degrees. How many different vehicle types are needed?
It's like a game of rock, scissors, & paper. The station wagon could carry more than a sedan at the expense of a little loss in gas milage and performance. The minivan could carry more than the station wagon and gave the driver greater visibility. The SUV had more power than the minivan and could haul larger trailers with the advantage of 4WD. The crossover SUV increased the gas milage. And now the crossover SW has even better gas milage and performance.
Customers want acceleration, good gas milage, good handling, seating, cargo space, hauling ability, stopping ability, crashworthiness, and luxury in varying degrees. How many different vehicle types are needed?
-- Ron ============ Good point. People like us buy to the size we need for all occasions. Since pulling a boat is required, little eco-cans are not suitable, and it makes no sense to have 2 depreciating vehicles when you only need one. So I opted for a SUT. Part of the choice in a SUT over a SUV was I can put a stove/fridge or whatever in the back with seat putzing. Plus trucks are less scrutenized in taxation in Canada, as everyone pounces on SUVs.
I don't know what it would cost to rent a F150-Lariat w. full tow package for 3-4 weeks a year, but my guess is that it pays for a lot of gas for the other part of the year. And convenience of loading it up with yard garbage and clippings now that they will not take it at the curb, almost priceless.
We have not, nor are going to replace the second vehicle we dropped early last year. Saves a bundle to only have one depreciation, insurance and maintenace needy vehicle.
But I can see why people want a station wagon, you can put stuff in it. Eco-cans fail here miderably. The best part of a SmartCar is they are easy to push out of been stuck in 2-3" of snow. F150 in 4x4, 6-8" of snow will not keep me home.
Well, the "poor mileage" goes along with the whole V8 power and RWD thing, which are useful for actual towing and hauling (nb: I have not actually looked up towing or cargo capacity specs for the Magnum to see how it compares with full sized cars of yore.) Still better than a typical full-sized SUV I'll bet, which is its current "equivalent." Certainly more stylish (to my eyes) and can't help but handle better too.
I wanted a station wagon. Actually I wanted a Corolla or Civic wagon. And not a Matrix.. A Matrix is not quite the same thing. It's more like a baby SUV, and I don't really care for it. It doesn't do as good on gas as a Corolla either. They used to make such an animal not too long ago, but it became extinct. I guess in the 90's or whenever..
I'm just glad the back seats fold down in the Corolla. While not being quite as good as a wagon, it helps quite a bit with hauling, etc. Heck, I sleep in the back of mine when I'm up at my land. With the seats down, I can stretch all the way out. My head will be behind the passenger side head rest/seat, and my feet will be at the end of the trunk by the drivers side tail light. :/ It's quite comfy being I use a foam mattress under me. I have a tent I can use up there, but I'm usually too lazy to put it up. It's easier to just sleep in the car, and no varmints can get to me either.. :/ And with the doors locked, any sneaky crooks, punks, etc will have trouble getting to me also. I'd hear them try to get in, and I'll just introduce them to my little friend that I sleep with. :+
I have a few, but I'm usually carrying my Swock.. Which is a Smith and Wesson Sigma "SW40VE" Which is a Glock clone. I bought that thing new for $299, and got a $50 rebate and two extra mags. So I have four mags total. "14x4+ one in the pipe=3D 57 rounds of .40 caliber kickass. :) Pretty good deal for $250.. And a lifetime warranty to boot if it ever flakes out. Some aren't crazy about the fairly stiff trigger, but it doesn't bother me. And it gets easier with use..
Here is a short clip of me killing a poor defenseless can with it up there.. Why did I kill the can? Because it was empty... :(
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