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The crap they try to sell you...

Thanks for your honesty.

I like the quick-lube places because I don't have to leave my car all day, or sometimes overnight if the mechanics have a long three-martini lunch.

It's true they recommend a lot of BS stuff. Succumbing to a sales pitch, I once tried high-mileage oil. It smelled funny and didn't seem to work as well as normal oil.

What I do is just say "no thanks, I plan to change the XXXX at its next recommended service interval."

Now in the 14th year of my Trooper, most of the service since 60,0000 (when Isuzu dealers went broke after the Consumer Reports tip-over test) has been done by Jiffy Lube. It's amazing how long a vehicle can last when you don't let a dealer work on it.

Reply to
Bill Tuthill
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Jesus Christ, guy. He's trying to help and giving good advice. If you don't like it, why not just ignore it? You seem personally offended by his post to a bizarre degree.

Reply to
That Guy

I ignored it because you're stupid, proof of which is the fact that you didn't figure that out.

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom

LOL, I know it improves *my* mood...

Reply to
That Guy

I think joe is a henpecked husband and this is the place he gets even. Am I close joe?

Reply to
dbu,

Colder than cold.

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom

Ok joe, LOL.

Reply to
dbu,

Nailed him again.

Good job!

Reply to
Scott in Florida

Your Toyota dealer will do your oil change in 30 minutes....and is very competitive in price.

Why would ANYONE take their car to a quick lube place?

Reply to
Scott in Florida

Step away from the bottle.

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom

Speaking from experience, eh?

Reply to
sharx35

One at a time, step back through the last few messages and tell me if "Nailed him again" makes any sense in this context. It doesn't, but I'm curious whether you see it or not.

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom

Back when I last had a Toyota (Camry '84 to '93) Toyota dealers were awful. Not as bad as Honda dealers, but awful nonetheless.

E.g. Toyota of Palo Alto failed to change my timing belt on schedule (60K) and it snapped when I was 200 miles away from home.

If Toyota dealers have improved since then, I'm glad to hear it.

In the case of my Isuzu, it is because nobody else will work on it. The local Chevy/Isuzu dealer went out of the Isuzu business, all their Isuzu-trained mechanics left, and they refused to make me a service appointment.

Also -- Jiffy Lube vacuums the floor.

Reply to
Bill Tuthill

I got the same problem with my 89 Trooper II, however nothing much breaks on it, but when something does go out I can usually repair it myself, such as the fuel pump bracket and starter. I suppose I'll need to replace the timing belt one of these days.

Reply to
dbu,

One of the advantages of purchasing a vehicle from one of the larger manufacturers is the ability to obtain service and parts.

Reply to
Ray O

Right. And two big advanteages of Isuzu are that it is Japanese reliable, but takes inexpensive GM parts in most cases.

Reply to
Bill Tuthill

Do GM dealers have cross references for Isuzu parts?

Reply to
Ray O

Not that I'm aware.

Aside from light bulbs, the only parts I've replaced on my 190,000 mile Trooper have been starter motor (3 times), clutch master cylinder, and cruise control. Both clutch master cylinder and cruise control were GM parts.

The original starter motor lasted 7 years, a Bosch starter lasted only a year, and an Hitachi starter lasted 4 years. This is obviously a weak spot of this vehicle: engine is too big for its starter motor.

Unbelievably (for a former Honda owner) the water pump is original.

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Bill Tuthill

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