I am trying to gauge on how well are these three Japanese luxury car
makers doing at the present. It is my impression that the market seems
to cool down for them. Either they do not offer some appealing
products, the american cars are getting better and offer better
values, their Japanese siblings (Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mazda) are
more appealing and cheaper to the people, or they do not meet with the
high end luxury car's expectation. Is it any of the above?
Are they doing well in comparison to other car makers, particularly
the german car manufacturers? The Japanese luxury cars do not seem to
give a "shock and awe" products at the moment. Despite of the problems
and dissatisfaction toward quality of German luxury cars, Audis, Benz
and Bimmer seem to offer lots of exciting, new products. Am I correct
on this? Do young professionals, business type people prefer to get a
Bimmer than a GS or TL or a G35? Does Audi offer better products in
their S4, S6 and S8? Strangely, those products seem to have low long
term satisfaction from their owners. Do these people look for quality,
style, or sheer performance? Could Japanese car makers ever match the
performance of German luxury cars?
I noticed that Benz has a variety of products that they offer. The
Japanese counterparts only offer one type for each categories (Lexus
IS, GS, ES, RX, LS or Acura RSX,CSX,TL,EL, RDX and MDX, or Infiniti
G35, and M35?). Should these Japanese Luxury car makers try to go into
more product varieries?
Or... is it really that BMW engine is the ultimate driving machine?
I have not heard people raving about a Honda TL or EL. There are not
too many GS430 or 450h on the street. Infiniti G or M35 looks nice,
and solid, but they do not stand out in the crowd. They seem to be
too quiet these days... or run out of steam?
You could accept what comes your way via Usenet - and do the copious math
yourself, or Google a few of the more well-respected purveyors of customer
satisfaction, such as:
Lexus is the top selling luxury brand in the US and continues to gain
market share. Acura's TSX has the highest resale value in it's class.
Those who are seeking the hottest/trendiest/flashiest vehicle and plan
to get ride of it by the time the warranty is over are still fawning
over European brands, but other than that bunch the market continues to
trend heavily towards the Japanese brands. Infiniti seems to be the one
Japanese brand which is chasing the trendy crowd.
Lexus has the highest sales in the US, higher than any other luxury
car maker, but in Europe people don't tend to like Lexus. It's hard to
know why, but in Europe automotive tastes seem to differ
significantly. E.g. virtually everyone in Continental Europe drives
with manual transmission and if you don't people look down on you. In
America most drive automatics. Lexuses tend to be more reliable and
refined than other luxury cars, so perhaps the difference in sales
reflect American consumers' utilitarianism and individualism versus
the European consumers' snobbery.
I think the lack of Lexus cars in Europe is due to the fact that European
drivers are interested in the driving and not the gadgets as we Americans
are. Lexus is built for the American market that wants comfort and
reliability at the expense of driving fun.
If I compare Lexus (with IS,ES,RX,GS,LS,SC,LX and GX series), Acura
(EL,TL,RL,TSX,MDX,RDX), or Infiniti (M, G, FX and Qx series) with
Mercedes Benz (MB), MB has much more products to offer.
There are A,B,C,E,S,SLK,SL,CLK,CL,SLR,CLS,ML and G series car that MB
offers, in comparison to the Japanese luxury brands.
On 14 Apr 2007 18:38:57 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
And GM loves people that think like you do.
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I have owned MB, Jaguar, Ford, GM, & VW. I think the Lexus overall is better
than any of these. The only problem I have with Lexus is the softness of the
paint job. It seems to suffer more from road rash than any (Except Jaguar)
of the other cars that I have owned.
It would take me several pages, perhaps a short book, to list all the
ways that my 06 LS430 premium whatsit version comes up short in
comparison to any german kar. But it is supposed to be durable and
reliable. The dealers are no better, in fact are worse because they
are such liars. As to handling, it sucks. Made a drive today that I
used to make a couple times a week for 3 years in my S Klass. The LS
was bouncing all over the road with the slightest wind. Three hours in
it felt bad, and my wife who never complains, said she was tired of
riding! She never got tired of riding in the S Klass. The tranny is
rough, but it is only 6 speeds. The pick up seemed ok, but rough and
sort of irregular when kicking in, esp at road speeds like in passing.
True, the S Klasse couldn't pass a stealership practicaly, and did
strand me by the side of the road on average every 3 years. In the
first 10,000 miles the LS 430 has developed a bad trunk motor and the
ac vents do not vibrate back and forth properly. And it has to go in
every 5000 miles for more cheap inferior dino oil. So it sees the
stealership more often than the old S Klass used to. But at least the
thing is cheap! About 30% less expensive than the S Klass. So if you
can't afford the best, drive a Lexus. Did I mention that when you hit
the open trunk button it unlatches the trunk which does not open till
you go back and grab it by the little button on the trunk? And when
you want to close the trunk, you have to push it all the way down till
the trunk closer motor wakes up, starts screeching, and pulls it down
the last inch or so. Oh yes - the open turnk button on the dash is
sooooo usefull - the button you have to push to open the trunk will
open it anyway without the dash button being pushed. Engineering for
show, not go. Buy a Lexus and you can say you have all the parts. Most
of them work, sort of. But it didn't cost much and it will run for
ever, probably. Hmmm ... wonder why Lexus cuts off its free call in
for repair service at 50,000 miles while the Krauts let theirs run on
forever or until the kar destructs or is hit by an A Bomb.
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