OK, for all you guys (and gals) that have an extra $6000 burning a hole in
your pocket, here's a link so you can buy your very own new DRB !! :-)
But seriously, for a 1993 (pre-OBD2) all you need is an OTC Monitor 4000E, a
cartridge 1993 or newer, and if you are the unfortunate owner of an A-604 4
speed electronic transmission too, then you need the Chrysler A-604
Transmission & Chassis (CCD) Adapter to go with it. You can readily pick up
the scanner and cartridge on Ebay for roughly $75 or less. The CCD adapter
is a little harder to find on Ebay, but they appear occasionally for
anywhere from $20-$50.
Unless of course you want to bleed your ABS brakes in which case only a DRB
I have a OTC Monitor 4000E with all the stuff mentioned above. Only problem
is who was the bozo who decided the engine compartment was a good place
for the engine diagnostic connector? Kind of makes road tests a bit
If you're speaking of the infamous Bendix 10 ABS system that was used from
1990-1993, then a scanner
isn't required to bleed the brakes (but is for diagnostics). I've never had
to use one to bleed, and the FSM doesn't mention the need for one either.
OTC did put out an ABS catridge for the 4000E but I have no idea if it
covered Chrysler ABS.
Not at all. You need an extension cable. OTC makes one and you can find them
on Ebay. I don't have the part number
There is no option to bleed the brakes on the DRB but when you go into
acuate/hydraulic and then open and close the solonoids it makes bleeding the
system very easy and fast. alot of Techs dont know this because it wasnt
written in any of the diagnostic books
No it does not. I have an e-mail from OTC directly on this, Chrysler did
not release ABS info for either the Bendix 10 or the Bendix 4 (which I
have) OTC has no tool that will bleed them.
You don't need a tool to bleed ABS unless the system gets air in it. Once
ABS unit gets air in it you can only bleed it properly by opening all the
selonoids with a DRB. Presumably if your on top of the brakes, and
catch leaks early, this won't happen.
No big deal, the cable uses a standard DIN, I wouldn't be much of a tech if
couldn't make an extension cable myself now, would I?
It's just the moronic positioning of the engine connector in the
of under the dash like everyone else.
You can buy a DRB scan tool from Chrysler. It's listed on the their
Tech Pubs site. But I don't think you will want one when you see the
price. It's over $6,000. Take Daniel Stern's advice and use an OTC
scanner. A OTC2000 or OTC 4000 will do fine for a 93. You can find them
very reasonable on eBay.
That's great if all you're ever likely to work on is ChryCo
vehicles, the OTC and the Snap-On will work on a variety of
domestics, Asian imports and European imports not to mention that
the OTC and S-O often come with troubleshooting software that
would be a great assistance for the DIYer who doesn't have ready
access to specifications, sensor values or known insider fixes
I think once a DIYer invests in such a tool, he'd be anxious to
amatorize out his investment using on friends and family vehicles
Okay, Glen says that the DRBIII will do generic OBD2 on 96 and
newer, you say that it will work on all vehicles in the U.S.
market. Which one of you should we believe?
When you say that it will pull "emissions codes," at best one
might believe that it will pull generic OBD2 codes which means
that it lacks manufacturer specific or enhanced code/data stream
capability which in effect means that in the mode you cite, it's
1/4 to 1/3 of a scan tool on non ChryCo vehicles.
When you get the chance, see how well it does on an OBD2 Ford at
retrieving miss-fire data; current and historical. Since the NGS
doesn't even do miss-fires and it's the factory tool for Fords,
the DRB would be one hell of a tool.
Hey Mic, I posted to you on the last one that was directed to your asshole
fan cuda, Damn eyes dont work the way they used to, But the DRB3 will
work on any vehicle with the OBD2 connector, you just gotta make sure you
set it up as a generic scan tool at the start. It does show values sensors
and code, and can also use the dual trace lab scope with them also
"Generic scan tool", same as what an OTC or Snap-On will do, same
as what a $99 Harbor Freight scan tool will do. He should spend
six thousand dollars (read: wipe his ass with $100 bills) for
-what- reason again?
But not ALL sensor values, and he'd be limited to the generic
OBD2 stuff, excluding any use on ABS, body computer, transmission
computer on non ChryCo stuff since none of it is part of the OBD2
Generic OBD2 codes, no manufacture specific or enhanced codes, no
ABS codes, not transmission codes on non ChryCo vehicles.
And Mode 6, is that displayed as hexidecimal? Does he get to
stay chained to his PC so he can do the conversions, if so, he
might just as well buy scan tool software for $200-$500.
WOW, dual trace lab scope. The rest of us have graduated to 4
trace and 8 trace lab scopes.
And in the end, the DIYer OP still doesn't receive the benefit of
Pathfinder or Troubleshooter software.
Sorry Glen, your recommendations for a phallic extension totally
miss the mark.
it was a while ago so i might have the year wrong but it was there on a van
with a 5.4
i also got 8.0 for replacing plugs removal of intake a help but not nessary
is the same neil of Wisconsin that has numinous complaints against his
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