(Atten: DS) Tenrai bulbs

That's a 2-page thread - I think I only linked to the 2nd page.

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x')

I believe they are similar to the blue headlights used in Europe.

A very good working definition of "insanity" is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result from iteration to iteration.

Say it again: IF A HALOGEN BULB IS ADVERTISED OR DESCRIBED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AS "CLOSE TO HID" or "EXTRA WHITE", IT IS JUNK! DO NOT USE IT! IT PUTS OUT LESS LIGHT THAN A BULB WITH CLEAR GLASS!

I'm sorry, Bill, I know you're just asking a question, but after ten years you'd think the message would get through. It doesn't matter whose name is on the package.

No, they aren't similar to anything used in Europe.

Learn:

DS

Just to clarify, my rant here is NOT directed at Bill Putney. It's directed at the marketeers who keep on sticking new labels and names onto the same Chinese garbage bulbs in the same plastic clamshell packaging, and the squirrels who keep posting to internet forums "D00d! I found the KEWLEST new bulbz, they are JUST LIKE HID XENON bling bling yo!".

Oh yeah, one more thing (in case anyone's copying posts and links and stuff from Usenet posts onto internet forums or anything):

Beside the color of the glass, filament placement/focus within the bulb REALLY matters. Fractions of a millimetre make enormous differences in the beam focus. See these two beam diagrams (One specific fog lamp tested with two different bulbs whose filament position differed slightly). The top beam is in focus, the bottom beam very definitely is not!:

I started this thread just prior to someone posting a photo of the packaging and bulbs on the 300M forums - once I saw the blue tint on the bulbs in the photos, I knew I was in for an a$$ whuppin'. 8^)

BTW - the packaging doesn't just say "CLOSE TO HID" - it literally says "HID", period. I recently saw a thread about a certain bulb on another forum in which the manufacturer's specs. were: "Input: 65 watts/Output:

100 watts". One ah dem power generatin', perpetual motion bulbs, Bubba!

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x')

Sounds like a solution to the oil shortage. Everyone install blue bulbs as a matter of National Security!

Meanwhile, the ideas expressed by the army research doctor in this article seem somehow, I donno, *familiar* to me:

DS

The article says about blue LED's: "Buyers are taking matters into their own hands, and have devised a variety of methods to tame their LEDs, including covering them with tape or card, disconnecting them and coating them with layers of black ink."

Would you recommend that for blue tinted headlights, too, Dan? 8^)

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x')

At this time I assert my Fifth and Second Amendment rights. ;-)

Both the 9011 and 9012 bulbs work as advertised, at about $30 a bulb.

less money, the new GE NightHawk bulbs are a real step in therightdirection. Although not as big a step as switching to the 9011's or12's they arethe only way to go if you currently require a single bulbsolution for high andlow functionality. Dan , I expect, would hope your carhas decent focus beforeswitching to the 9011's or 12's.Richard.

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