Hint, my business mileage is about 500 miles per week, which I don't consider much. Today I did Aberystwyth to Dale [15 miles southwest of Haverfordwest] which was about 175 miles total round, with a 16ft trailer and two tons on it for half the journey. Started at 1pm and back for 6pm. Tomorrow at some point I will hit Brecon. My daily drive is a Toyota Land Cruiser 4.2.
Huw
No it is you that is missing the point. I don't consider my mileage to be particularly out of the ordinary. It is you that makes that kind of claim, repeated above. "Bigger/better/longer" remember?
Huw
And that's only about 150 miles further than Orange, Texas to El Paso, Texas, travelling Interstate 10 all the way.
Bigger, better AND further eh.
Huw
"Huw" wrote
IMO, a PER CAPITA average mileage would be more instructive than average per car. BTW, my average on my primary car is around 18K miles. And I don't even commute - no job.
FloydR
A bit of a waster then in more ways than one?
Huw
you better hope so.
"Huw" wrote
Considering that about 1/3 of that mileage is in support of volunteer efforts for charitable organizations, your characterization of "waster" is entirely inappropriate. Most of the rest is for traveling between my three homes - us retired people have more free time to travel than you "businessmen".
FloydR
Bah. Luxury. Try getting to Bafole in Cameroon.
Roads? Vass iss mit roads?
Phawr. Pics?
Try to get to Fabedougou Burkina Faso. The "road" ends about 4K from the village.
"Floyd Rogers" wrote >>
I was just asking.
Huw
Depends on your point of view.... my daughter hates riding for that long but my wife and I love seeing the country that way.
That is a typically Texan comment... :-) (What a big state I have...)
Reminds me a story told long ago when a Texan and a South African (but you insert any number of other countries) were arguing about the relative sizes of their 'states'...
Towards the end the Teaxan brags, "Texas is so big that if you board a train at one end, you're still in Texas 24 hours later."
Answer, "Yes, yes, we have (slow) trains like that, too, here..."
DAS
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GROAN.
DAS
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How is that relevant to nub of the argument?
So far the best guesses we have for annual mileages in NA and UK ae@
UK - 12 000 miles US/CA - 12 000, possibly 15 000 miles.
The only way to determine whether mileages in NA are very significanlty higher is to try to find firmer evidence for these numbers.
If, for example, the 15K figure is confirmed for NA and the UK figure (not "Europe", another thing altogether and of no meaning) turns out to be 10K, then we have a clear difference.
I had a quick look on Google for a UK figure but was unsuccessful so far.
I also checked the rest of this section of this thread and I could only see a pissing contest but nationally or regionally valid averages. The comment by one poster about considering miles per person is interesting (rather than miles per car) but may not add much. It would certainly make the search for data harder.
In my own case that might add maybe a guesstimated 25 - 30% to my (very low) annual mileage (small is beautiful) because of journeys in rented cars.
DAS
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"Dori A Schmetterling" wrote
How about hours per capita/car? One might speculate it would be closer in the EU/US - for instance Inverness to London is around 12-13 hours for
580 miles, which is about what the 800 miles Seattle to San Francisco takes. Generally, the US Interstate system allows shorter times for long trips; even the secondary roads generally allow higher speeds than EU secondary roads.I agree that some are in a pissing contest - doesn't really matter, since it's a real apples-to-oranges comparison.
FloydR
Having flogged this horse to it's constituant atoms is it now time to compare the price of fuel and bitch about that for a month?
Well, my average miles per year over the last 15 years is considerably lower than average for our area, as the office where I spend most of my time is only 7K from home, and I make that round trip once a day. The local airport is only 15K from home if I need to travel internationally.
My 12 year old van has 334000 KM on it, for an average of roughly
28000 km per year. Over the last almost 3 years, I have put on 58,000 km on the van (20,000km per year), plus several thousand on my wife's car (which really lowers the average, with only 12,000km per year average on it over 10 years) The 58000 km in the last three years has included a quick trip to Florida, one to northern Michigan, one to central New York State, and numerour trips around Ontario. 5 years ago we made a fast trip to Winnipeg and 10 years ago to BC. I travel a lot less than either of my neighbours.Anyway, whether harder on the car or not, there are DEFINITE differences between the usage a car gets between Wales and Ontario. There are huge differences between the use they get in Ontario and Saskatchewan (where you can watch your dog run away for a week), and even between areas of Ontario. Here, towns are spaced out every,15 km or so, often with villages interspersed between, while in some areas you are litterally 50 miles from nowhere - to get to a town of any size to get something you need could be a 100 mile trip - one way.
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