Wrong once again I'm Right. The 2nd gen has always had a power window relay.
You should know what you are talking about before saying something!
One thing is for sure ... you are NEVER Right! LOL! Why do you go back to
SPAMing about your website?
Friday June 10 2005, Dennis Smith writes to All:
> One thing is for sure ... you are NEVER Right! LOL! Why
> do you go back to SPAMing about your website?
... A husband is a lover who pushed his luck too far!
actually I'm right is right....went to the dealership the relays were not
part of the cars in 80, 77 etc yes perhaps, the window motors have relays
built in and are wired direct...the problem I had was when I bolted the
seats down I pinched a wire.....so now all is good
that is a CIRCUIT BREAKER
no relays in the door locks or window circuits
I have owned Camaros since before you were even born.
I've rebuilt many from the ground up.
and once again
a jealous little geek punk like you who hasn't even begun to shave can just
go back to reading your nursery rhymes and leave us big kids alone.
You're going to have to tell that to my '73 Trans Am and the '73 factory
service manual and the parts book. There is clearly a relay in the wiring
diagram, in the master parts catalog at the dealership and under the dash for
the power windows.
And no doubt they were hack jobs ... first class rebuilds, south of the Mason
I'm Right, Ur WRONG!
Go back to SPAMMING your website!
I was born in 1974. So you owned a camaro from September of 66 (1967
model release) to November of 74, or somewhere in that year range? Wow
Big Deal, so did over 500,000 other people!
I have restored my fair share of cars. I work on cars every day for my
living, my hobby, and my kicks. I can take boxes and build you a
compleate car from the contents. Big Whoop. Yet even with all my
knowledge I still consult a Factory Service Manuial for correct info.
Go yell at the idiots at AutoZone, your ranting might impress some
lower then human wanna-be counter dweebs.
First off. There should not be ANY wiring on the window circuit that
runs under the seats. It will be in the dash, running thru to the doors.
If you have counsel mounted switches, the wiring runs under the counsel.
Second a Relay is a Switch. It is so the switch gear and cuits in the
car only need to handle lower power, and the relay when sent a signal
from the low power side will switch the high power side. I doubt the
swithes in your 1980 can handle 45 AMPS.
The lack of relays installed when adding circuits for power
accessiories to cars is how people end up with wiring fires, melted down
switches, and blown fuses.
Charles, on a 2nd-gen the wiring for the console switch does indeed run under
the carpet and under the drivers seat. The wiring starts at the kick panel,
goes in a channel under the polished "Body By Fisher" trim, through an opening
next to the drivers seat and over to the console. There are actually clips on
the floor board to secure the wiring.
3rd-gens are also the same way but are done a little more safely by running the
wiring through a plastic conduit over to the console.
Dennis, If it were my car we were discussing I would reroute the
wiring. I do not like to have wires where if the worst happens (rain
water) finds it way in, it will soak the wiring. On any generation the
floorpans are where water will collect, and eventially cause a corried
wire (Remember I live in Ohio where rust & dead seals thrive).
and I live in Ontario....and the wires were fine both in my 77 and 80, it
was my mistake not watching where things went.....
Man this is nuts all I asked was a simple question cause my 77 has relays
under the dash...the 80 does not....
Don't just guess cause you "Think" you are an expert.....and then beat the
crap out of anyone else who offers an opinion...
Man O man
Oh yes BTW corried is spell Corroded
Things would have went better had "I'm Right" not chimed in with his abusive
and unlikable attitude. He has been a problem in this newsgroup and other
auto related groups for a few years now. He typically belittles everyone and
gives harsh comments on even the simplest of questions. He is also constantly
plugging his Bought4TooMuch website.
A search of "I'm Right" on Google Groups will show you what type of person he
and how am I to know that?
So a guy like me who had a question, legit for this group, had to put up
Think about that for a moment.....
No matter how you cut it....he was right....
Anymore people just don't care. Some moron goes ranting, and they side
with them because some idiot countman doesn't know what the fuck he's
This is why people leave the groups, and finding the advice one needs
gets so hard.
Dennis the Menace perhaps?
There isn't any power window relays.
please learn to live with that.
You may impress the girly-boys at the Sonic or autozones with the 4 foot
tall eractor set spoilers on the trunks of their 4 door, tinted windowed,
fart pipe equipped boom boom stereo haulers.
And so I do sell quality merchandise at far better prices than what some
huge retailers do like jc whitney, yahoo or ebay stores. And NO the stereos
are not at bargain prices and Never will be. There are too many importers
selling them at what they cost me to buy them. But you get no warranty with
No one offers a better cruise for less.
And we have connections with most all AC manufacturers.
As well as Electric-Life windows and locks.
So I do say go to www.bought4less.com and LOOK. maybe someone will see what
they want at the price they like.
No one is FORCING anyone to visit there.
Its not a pop-up or pop-under or ever been spammed in email.
So grow up, and get a life.
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