Thanks for any help in advance.
My son has a 2000 Ford Explorer, XLS (60,000) 4.0 Push Rod OHV 4X4.
I have the Haynes book (not so good) and a CDROM 2000 Fords Service
Manuals also not so good.
I need to know the locations of the block/freeze plugs. Preferably a
picture of the engine block itself. He was told by a mechanic that
one needed to be replaced. The mechanic did not say which one.
It's so difficult to find this information. If anyone has had a small
leak from one of these plugs please let me know which one and if
anyone knows of where I can buy a book just on this engine.
Thanks again Hank
I cant tell you all the details, but you can get a complete repair
manual for your car (or any car). They are not cheap though.
However, some of them are sold on ebay and other online auctions.
Maybe you can google something too. Search for "repair manual" +"2000
I just did this. There are over 800 hits.
Look at item # 8020739736 on Ebay. Its a CD.
The ad says this
Here is the factory Shop Manual for 2000 Ford
Econoline,Excursion,Expedition,Explorer,F150-F750, Ranger, Windstar,
Lincoln Navigator, Mercury Mountaineer, Villager on CD. This CD is
Fully Illustrated with easy search and find features. This CD does
have the EVTM. You can print off the repair guide
Buy it now $5.50 plus about $4 shipping.
Glad I asked. I was thinking of getting one for my car.
That's probably why its on ebay. They were probably rejected and
someone bought them for a few cents a piece and dumped them on ebay.
I hesitated to even mention it, because almost everything I have
gotten from ebay was junk. I bet its 2 years since I bought anything
Actually, those CDs are usually copies of the original Ford Factory Service
in the dealerships produced by Helm. As far as the quality of the info, It's the
available. You would get the same info from the paper manuals from Helm.
about core plugs (correct name for "freeze" plugs), is likely not included
specifically because there is an assumption of familiarity with such a basic
There will be 2 or 3 down each side of the block, usually 2 on the rear of the
and 1 at each end of rhe cylinder heads. If you have one leaking, follow the wet
to the culprit.
Actually, if you look at the illustrations in the major engine repair section,
will probably see them in the illustrations.
I keep wondering about the "illegality" of selling these Ford CDs. I would
think there are some copyright issues, but they are all over Ebay. One fellow
put images of the CDs on a website for download. I wonder why Helm or Ford
an issue of this. A while back I noticed some of the post-2002 DVDs available on
I haven't seen any lately, though I really haven't looked. Maybe that's where
copyright holders drew the line.
If it's the original Ford CD that came from the factory under a subscription
plan it is not
legal for the dealership that got those CD's to sell them as they are
required by contract
to destroy the old ones when the replacement updates are sent to them. And
dealership employee or passers by appropriates the old ones and sells them,
selling stolen goods which is also illegal. The upshot is that there's no
way to transfer
ownership of the old CD's to someone without breaking the contract with the
but if some loophole allowed you to do it, there's nothing in federal law
that's a violation.
Obviously, if the dealership outright bought the CD's initially, instead of
under subscription, then they can sell them.
Copies of the CDs are illegal to sell no matter what, unless a license fee
has been paid on them.
Helm and Ford do have people that shut these people down on Ebay but it's a
process. The problem is that the investigators have to buy these illegal
get them in hand before they can sue the people. The sellers of these
very savvy and suspicious and will check out the userIDs of the purchasers,
your userID is new, for example, and you win their auction, they will refuse
and won't send you the CD. Ebay's security department has a way around
it is a vast network of fake Ebay userID's that have fake feedback histories
fake auctions, and so on. But they primariarly use this network for their
internal investigations, not for small stuff. Corporate investigators have
their own networks of fake userIDs.
It takes many complaints with Ebay before Ebay will pull the userID of the
And of course Ebay stalls and stalls the process, going through 'mediation'
they call it. Then once the sellers are booted they just create new
The only effective way to shut these people down is to fight them on their
that is, illegally. For example, a number of years ago when I was looking
manuals for one of my vehicles, I kept getting snared by a particular CD
kept using "xxx factory service manual" in his descriptions, rather than
just "xxx service
manual" like the rest of them do. I was wasting a lot of time clicking on
manual only to see another
illegal CD advertised. I finally got sick of it and created a whole bunch
ebay ID's and just started buying every CD he advertised on Ebay and of
not paying him. Either he finally got sick of asking ebay for credits on
his final value fees,
or he stopped paying his ebay bill, but his userID disappeared shortly
and the misleading descriptions stopped appearing.
The big problem, unfortunately, is that the vast majority of the customers
these CD's know perfectly well they are buying an illegal copy, and they
complain to anyone when they get it. Ebay makes millions of bucks off of
doing this kind of activity, and from their point of view, copyright
the buyers and sellers problem, not Ebay's. So, Ebay makes the usual
correct protestations about not allowing illegal copyright violations sales
Ebay, but then does absolutely nothing when people see these illegal
and file complaints about them through the proper channels.
Ebay has become one of the most popular venues for disposal of stolen
property today, and many law enforcement people are trying to figure out
how to regulate them or otherwise prod them into policing their auctions
more carefully. Unfortunately, Ebay has this angle figured out as well
police departments who don't criticize Ebay get instant responses when
they ask for names and addresses of criminals on the system. In fact,
Ebay will give any law enforcement person a complete workup on any
ID on the system, not just their real name and address but history of every
auction they ever were involved in. And Ebay saves everything, they have
all auction data for every auction that has ever been in the system from day
(even though they don't make it available to the general public) and all
of that is free for the taking, without a subpoena, all the cop has to do is
fax a request to them. The only thing Ebay doesen't give out to police in
response to a fax is financial data - but Ebay will tell the cop if there's
interesting trends in the financial data and advise them to get a court
to get it, once the cop does that then Ebay will give a complete history of
all financial data on a person.
The law enforcement people don't want to jeapordize this so they
are pretty muted in their criticism of Ebay's handling of it's auctions.
I actually suspect that a lot of detectives and such prefer Ebay to make
things so easy to fence stolen goods, that it attracts criminals, because
then it's easier to catch them because the tracking of the auctions is
so complete. Kind of the honeypot syndrome.
I will be doing that tomorrow. I will pressure test the system but
wanted to know if anyone had a similar problem and had pictures of
where the plugs are.
Also, the paper shop manuals for the autos seem to much better than
the CDs even if they have the same info...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:57:20 -0800, "Ted Mittelstaedt"
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