hi bob - it was a 1993 dodge caravan.
we were the largest mini van dealer in the area. i've sold a lot of areostars, windstars, apv's, and caravans.
the areostar transmission is basically same as the ranger transmission but is has more load on it due to bigger body. jasper engine and transmission plant is just down the road. and when they did the rebuild on a transmission, they usually stayed fixed. that is were i got the numbers 80k and up because they see them come in.
the windstars had transmission problems when they came out. one transmission repairman just came back from school and said that ford has safety switches and limiters on the transmission to prevent damage to the unit in drive, but when you put it in reverse, the transmission bypasses all the safety switches and it will let the internal pressures build up too great and blow the transmission in reverse if you do over
30 mph in reverse. i said, "ok, that makes sense. how many drive 30 mph in reverse?"
he looked at me and said, "when you get stuck in snow and are rocking the vehicle out of the drift going from low to reverse, they blow the transmission. we got three of them in this morning alone"
the apv's held up usually very well. sold 42 to one company and we had reports that some of them had over 200,000 miles on them without a wrench put on either the engine or transmission. these were the 3.1 units. didn't get enough in to comment about the 3.8 units, other than to say they had more power. i'm not saying that all of them do that, but we had good service reports from our customers. never had a complaint about the transmission after we sold the unit.
the caravans would give us a lot of transmission problems. the 1993 was the worse. and the person who rebuilt the transmission was the head shop foreman in the jasper transmission shop with over 30 years experience. and as i said, the transmission didn't hold up that long. i've had a customer that brought a caravan in with 152,000 miles on it and wanted to trade it in. they had put 4 transmissions in it and spent
1100 on the last repair. the mechanic that repaired it told them to get rid of the van before it had 11,000 miles on it. they had drove it
12,000 miles and it was acting up, which is why they were wanting to trade it in.
speaking on the other side, i've known of a person who has had two caravans that they bought new, drove 200,000 miles and never had any problems with the transmission.
it also seems that the 4 cly transmission unit held up longer than the 6 cly models.
i had a full size dodge van that the transmission started shifting strange and took it to the transmission shop. i was informed at that time that it wasn't just the front wheel drive transmissions that have problems, that the rear wheel do to and at about the same mileage. and the cost of the repair for a rear wheel drive transmission was the same as the front wheel drive - 1600 dollars.
~ curtis
i will put a STRONG disclaimer on the post. i am NOT promoting one brand over the other. i presented the facts as i've experienced them. i'm sure that there are good units of all brands out there. i encourage others can join in and maybe the reader can get a more overall picture of what they have.
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