Looking for a mid-size domestic car recommendation

Cool, thanks for the tip. Not sure if what I have is a early Neptune. It has manual dial controls vs. the electronic controls the ones they sell these days.

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James C. Reeves
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Sounds like an early one like mine. Call them and say you have a mildew stain on the gray seal and it smells inside. They will come to your house for free and after they are done you will have new seal with drain, ventilated inner door, improve cycles though they are slightly longer, better rinsing, protection of the door lock form chlorine fumes. Takes about an hour. The phone number is on the machine where you stick in detergent. By the way they will sell you a 3 year extended warranty for about $325 which might be worth it on an older machine. But the fix is free even without buying the extended warranty.

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Art

Clare - What year Mystique? I have owned and maintained a '96 Mystique and a '98 Contour (Ford's Mystique) for several years now for my daughters, and so am familiar with their peculiarities. A very good enthusiast site for Contours/Mystiques (or more affectionately known as "Contiques") is

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complete with discussion forums and years of searchable archives.

One reason that I ask what year you have is that there was a serious flaw in under-hood wiring in '95 thru '97 MY's which I may be able to give you some pointers on (both in recognizing symptoms of and fixing).

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

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Bill Putney

Didn't those beasts also have problems with the automatic transmissions?

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Brad Clarke

It is a '96 that has had all the recall campaigns done. Ir DOES need a left front wheel bearing - I though MABEE I heard something when I bought it. We have done 2 pretty good trips with it, and now I'm SURE I'm hearing a bearing. Has 93,000Km on it now.

This car seems to be an excellent replacement for the Mark Cross Brougham, complete with full leather upholstery. (4th out of 5 cars I've bought for the wife with leather - '76 Monarch Ghia (white leather) '85 Mark Cross T&C Wagon, '88 Mark Cross Brougham, and now the Mystique. (had a very good '81 Corolla wagon after the Ghia, with fabric seats - which were starting to get pretty badly sun baked by the time we sold it)

The '85 T&C totally rotted away, leaving a good 2.6 Mitsu (rebuilt by me) and inerior which I sold 10 years ago - and were still on the road as recently as a couple months ago.

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nospam.clare.nce

From my reading of their forums for a couple of years, not if the fluid is changed on a reasonably regular basis, but, yes you do read of a failure every now and then, like on any car forum of whatever brand. I've not had any tranny problems. I did have the fluid changed once on both the '96 and the '98.

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

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Bill Putney

I remember reading at one time that Mystique & Contour owners were lobbying Ford to fix the transmissions.

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Brad Clarke

What I'd like to know is: who promised it to everyone? The Constitution sure didn't.

--Geoff

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Geoff

Well, I am quite a character Dan. You know _that_ by now. I'll tip my hat in salute to you as the same, brother.

I'm unaware of any utopian thinking in my views, but I'll let you point it out to me. Maybe I'm too close to see it. Regardless, my intentions are pure.

***

I don't mind pissing on collectivists and socialists because the world by and large has proven their ideology to be fatally flawed. (I'd sooner not piss on anyone, but experience has taught me that efforts to inform and educate, discuss politely, or even to just say, hey, there's two sides to this coin fall on deaf ears. So I console myself in the fun of pissing on 'em. It's a small hobby of mine.)

So too with the pure unrestrained capitalists. I don't advocate for unrestrained capitalism. I just advocate *against* socialism in its myriad forms. I think it's oppressive and evil and insidious. It hurts the very people it purports to help.

I don't think anybody ought to gripe about what somebody else makes. Of course, they're free to do so, because we revere the freedom of speech. But I get my back up when people start talking like it should be a matter of law, or that it's all somehow so unfair. Life is unfair. Get over it already. *Government* doesn't (or shouldn't) exist to make life more fair. 'Fairness' is a red herring, a proverbial windmill against which millions of liberal Don Quixotes tilt each and every day. It's a shame such effort goes to waste.

I'm amused at how powerless people in this NG seem to feel about their own lives. It would be sad if it wasn't so funny. Of course, it strikes me that they might all just be so damn broke and overleveraged that they've gotta have someone to blame. I dunno.

But I remain, truly yours, the same 'Geoff character' you've come to know and..uh..occasionally read in Usenet. Nice to catch a passing mention from you.

Oh, and by the way, I finally took your advice to use Pine on one of my machines. I like it. I don't love it, but it's better than Outbreak Express. Thanks. I'll be switching the others over sooner or later.

Regards,

--Geoff

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Geoff

That's hardly unusual in corporate America. I've seen the same thing in (*cough*) other places. Face it, we're a wasteful society. It's not limited to business--after all, the people who make bad decisions like that go home and dork around on Usenet just like you 'n me. It's everyone. It's a byproduct of being the wealthiest country that the planet has ever hosted. We have more, so more is worth less. Human nature, I guess.

That's interesting calculus. At the moment, ideas like that are putting Sweden in the poorhouse, and the Europeans had to band together (to create one *big* sinking ship, instead of several smaller ones.) But I respect your opinion, and the polite way you've delivered it, and it's been a fun exchange. Woodward Dream cruise is imminent, and so my mind is turning to other things here in God's country-for-the-automobile.

Have a great weekend.

--Geoff

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Geoff

That may be the case - I just don't recall reading much about it. If that is the case, it would show up in a search of the forum on

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Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

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Bill Putney

I doubt you comprehend the history and purpose of the European Union.

DAS

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Dori A Schmetterling

Sorry but I know someone who licked leukemia and has rheumatoid arthritis. Real estate agent so self employed and earns about $60k a year. No one will sell her health insurance.

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Art

Unfortuantely those programs do not have the funds to handle the need. The money is going to Iraq.

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Art

First you argue there is no class divide. Now you argue the lower class has no rights. Are you a constitutional lawyer or Supreme Court judge? Somehow I doubt it.

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Art

I am personly surprised that Mike does not have a GT40 yet......... ;)

Bob

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Bob Urz

Human compassion ain't your strong suit, is it?

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Daniel J. Stern

My dealer just called me yesterday to ask if I was interest in the $157,000 2005 Ford GT he has coming. I told him I don't buy cars that only have two seats ;)

My next car will be a 2005 Mustang GT convertible available in February.

mike hunt

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DustyRhoades

I'm curious, what percentage of you annual income do you donate to charity? ;)

mike hunt

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DustyRhoades

I tell you what Mike, you buy the Ford GT now, and I'll buy the Mustang in February, and I'll swap you straight up when I get the Mustang. You get a brand new Mustang and I get a used car with only two seats. Sounds fair to me.

Ed

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C. E. White

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