I wrote a while back introducing myself. I am still a proud Focus owner and
I am still very happy with my purchase. However, I do have a question
about my gas gauge. Whenever I fill my tank the gauge never tops out at the
full mark. Does anyone else have this "problem"? Is this a common problem
with Focus'? I ask only because this is the first Ford product that I have
owned (I've been a Ford owner for over 15 years) that has exhibited this
Just curious if this is a common thing.
You don't give the year but faulty fuel senders (in the tank) were a problem
in 2000 and 2001 North American Foci. This was one of the two breakdowns I
had on my 2000 wagon (the other being the ignition lock).
When it starts to malfunction, it will probably simply get worse. In my
case, I ran out of gas because it was telling me I had lots when I didn't.
Ironically, I was starting to think that it had been a long time since I
bought gas and was headed to the gas station when blah. Bone dry.
Fortunately the car was still under warrantee at the time. The new one has
Unfortunately, the sender is in unit with the pump so the cost is not cheap
(not sure off hand how much). If you don't want to fork out the money you
could rely on the trip odometer.
There is currently an extended manufacturer warranty program for the
faulty fuel pump on some 2001 models. I had the same problem on my
focus which I just bought a month ago pre-owned and was able to get it
fixed for free by a local dealership. Just tell them that the car is
stalling and they'll replace it for free. Because the sensor is a part
of the fuel pump, bingo - that'll fix the problem and you won't have
to pay a penny.
I know you aren't supposed to fill the tank all the way up the neck but I do
it anyway. The gauge will show just past full for about a mile then show
7/8's full right after about 2 miles of driving. After that, the gauge is
pretty accurate the rest of the way down.
Actually in the owners manual it says you have to fill it with the car turned
off and also it takes usually 3 times to "click" off to get a more true
fill-up. I drive my husband crazy because he will fill his Taurus to the first
click off basically and that's it...you have to kind of nurse the fuel into a
Focus. I just make sure I don't fill it up around him. That plus I burp the car
by bumping into it...
Good luck... Linda
Guess I should read my manual more closely! LOL!
Here in Michigan we are required to shut off our engines when filling
anyway. So, the engine running option is not a real option. I have owned
several Ford products over the years and this is the first one with this
quirk. I love my car but I was just curious to know if anyone else here was
experiencing this phenomenon.
On my UK Focus I need the ignition key to open the fuel filler door.
This must help to ensure that the majority of engines will be turned off
I find that I can squeeze around an extra 3 litres of petrol (gas) into
the tank if I 'trickle' it in after the first auto shut-off on the
dispense nozzle. However life is too short to bother with this :)
The (analogue) fuel gauge reads above just above full when the tank is
filled to the first auto-shut off on the dispense nozzle. It is not very
linear when reporting the fuel consumed
From full to three quarters full I get x miles
From three quarters to half I also get x miles
From half to a quarter I get 80% of x miles
From quarter to empty I get 60% of x miles
I guess that when the low fuel light comes on I still have around 6 or 7
litres in the tank - judging by the amount it takes to refill to full
and the specified fuel tank capacity.
In the US where they have self serve gas it's common to see people leave their
cars running while filling up. I've done it on occasion - usually if I needed a
little gas with the station being around the corner I didn't want to turn it
off that soon. Normally I will turn off the car as the guage doesn't register
correctly if you fill it up while running. When you restart the car next time
it's OK....I reset my trip odometer every time so I can watch what kind of
mileage I'm getting.
I thought the reason you guys had locking gas caps was because your gas is
blooming expensive. I've only had a locking cap once and that was put on by my
husband...I wouldn't bother - if they needed the gas that much more power to
Linda ZX5 '03
here in Germany we have only self-service gas stations except on
highways, where the price is extra high.
But you have to stop the engine everytime on every station when filling up.
That is for
- safety reasons
petrol is a light inflamable fluid and it is building up an explosive
atmosphere very easy. So, where is no ignition, there is no danger.
Smoking is forbidden also. By the time you go into the shop to pay your
bill the explosive atmosphere has time to thin out.
- environmental and economical reasons
while you are filling up your car and go to pay your bill, you can save
gas by stopping the engine. Here in Germany we are told to stop the
engine even when waiting on crossings for green light.
- insurance reasons
no car insurance will pay you a cent when a thief gets your car whith
the key into the ignition lock while you are paying the bill.
Also not, when you leave your kids in the car and they play around and
damage it or others cars or persons because they can let it move because
you left the key in the car.
I agree with you but with my first Focus I didn't dare stop the car as if I
restarted it I'd blow a starter fuse...in the US they aren't quite as concerned
with that as with people using their cellphones at the pumps. And to see people
smoking while filling up I just drive away...luckily nothing happened to me so
with my "new" car the 2003 - I don't need to worry about it starting so I turn
it off with no concerns. Plus we can pay at the pump with our credit card so we
don't need to go inside to pay so they use less help - usually only one or two
people to run a store and gas station. My husband is a volunteer fireman so I
got lectures from day one about safety and fires and cars...no kids to worry
about though. I don't know about insurance as I only drive Fords that people
here won't steal ( tongue in cheek)...Pintos and Escorts and Tempos now
Focus...mostly the low end of cars...I even left keys in my Tempo in Detriot ,
Mi. and they wouldn't even bother with it...darn. Enjoy - I love my car...
Never happened, just a theory check out
episode 2 they tried everything to get the gas to ignite, it didn't.
And to see people smoking while filling up I just drive away...luckily
nothing happened to me so
I would too.
Like if a fire does start don't pull the hose out of the tank, it will
just become a flamthrower, and have less air to work with, hit the
shutoff first, see above link, IIRC they went over that issue also.
it can also throw a code due to the fuel system losing internal pressure
which helps emissions...just shut the car off at the pump and itll be
ok...part of the fuel gauge not registering is the radio...sometimes while
the radio is on and it is being pumped the gauge reads goofy...it sounds
stupid but thats what the dealership said when i worked at one
hey, I have an '01 zts and it has always done the same thing. Even if you
fill it to the point of overflowing..( I was watching a pair of killer legs
go by at the time).. but have never had a real problem. I assumed that
everything was ok, and left well enough alone.
On my Foci I've noticed that yes it does seem to move off the full mark
quickly but the markings don't really reflect the amount of fuel in the
car. Each of the markings equates to approx. 10 litres with the low fuel
light coming on just before the empty mark. In reality, if I fill the tank
when the low fuel light comes on, it actually fills about 40 litres. Since
it is a 50 litre tank, I assume that the low fuel light comes on I have
about 10 litres of reserve. Personally I would rather have a true
indication of the fuel used/remaining rather than have a stupid low fuel
light and be coddled like an infant with Ford's "reserve" amount. Only an
idiot needs "idiot lites".
The only thing I like about the knowing how much each of the markings is in
fuel is that I can predict within a litre of how much my fill-up will be at
Too common in modern cars.
When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.
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NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message
No problems over here (99' Focus), as with any other Ford I
owned, it'll stay at top for the first 100 km after filling up
and fall then depending on how you drive quite fast.;(
Curious from other posts, that you seem to be allowed to let the
engine run while filling the tank, somewhere. Never heard about
something as stupid, it's not allowed over here.
Michael & Group
Not sure where "over here" is but to clarify... it is illegal (and yes,
stupid as well <grin>) in US and Canada to have your engine running while
refueling. One of the many Fire Code regulations that most responsible
companies ensure are followed.
(safety guy for an oil company)
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