Disel or Gas?

Not only can I spell, I can get most of my punctuation and spacing right too.

4.10/1 behind a 5 speed with a heavy-duty Centerforce racing clutch. This is my daily driver, fuel mileage is not high on my priorities list. If it were I may look more seriously at a stinky noisy diesel engine. You would be surprised how many states don't have any emission standard or testing for non-new cars / light trucks. Have you gone into a new truck dealer and asked for a 3/4 or 1-ton truck with a manual transmission lately? You can't get one in your glorious republic of Kalifornia anymore, because they can't control the emissions as well without the computer controlled automatic transmission...

No matter how happy you are with your diesel it will never be quicker than my hot warmed over 460...

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Apples & Oranges
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Well mine's an oem '76 and I guarantee you it will leave your PS in a cloud of dust. So doubt all you want, but you're wrong.

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Steve Barker

Guys, check this DIESEL out....... 1/4 mile, 12.149 sec, 119.78 mph....

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Luke

I'm telling you!!! That was a Cummins in a Dodge,same thing though--smokin'!!!!!! Tell me I'm full of crap now.....

I'd rather be stroked than rammed

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Burnett

I know it's a Cummins but damn, a 1ton dually diesel, pulling a 12.149 1/4 mile. And ON the track so you know they like to race. I watch the big rigs race a couple times a year here, and man they pound.

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Luke

{QUOTE} Who is really confused here? When exactly did you say you saw a competitive dragster with a diesel engine??? OH that's right! NO SUCH THING!!! {END QUOTE}

Oh BTW, A&O, that clip was for you.

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Luke

HOLY MOLEY!!!!!

I used to have a 66 Fairlane that would run 12.74@110, and I thought I was really cranking! That Dodge has to weigh 4500-5000 pounds, and it's as aerodynamic as a brick!

I AM VERY IMPRESSED!!!!!

Anyone have the URL of a page with more info on this or any other quick diesels? I did a google search, and was unable to find details of them.

Thanks!

Gerard

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geewhiz

Oh great!

Now luke is happy with a totally tricked out diesel truck that is running

1/4 mile times in the low 12's just about on par with what the open street bracket "gasoline" engines have been doing for more then 30 years...

Impressive? yea, competitive? with what?

oh, yea what happened to that over touted great diesel fuel mileage on this truck?

Boy I'd be jumping up and down and acting like a fool to rub that in everyone's face! NOT!

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ARE you STUPID?

Fark. I had a 4cly. in the 11's. When I blew it up. Long story.

Plasyd

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Plasyd

That Dodge has to weigh closer to 7-8,000 lbs. My Powerstroke weighs that !

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Burnett

Show me an open street bracket gasser that weighs 7,200 lbs and pulls a low

12, Asshat...... and fuel milage does not equate in the dragracing formula. Only stock trucks, just like gas. You hop up a 460 and it'll drink the fuel, you and I both know that.

Gerard, I found that at

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The pickup is growing increasingly popular with the new vehicle buying public. This growing popularity has also found its way to the drag strip with the advent of the Pro Stock Truck Class and the truck classes in both Super Stock and Stock eliminator. But like with cars, the quickest pickups won't be found at NHRA races but at IHRA, NSRA, NMRA, and other races across the world. The cars are blown, turbocharged, or nitrous injected. Not one naturally aspirated pickup makes the top ten list. On top of the quickest pickup list is Glenn May from the Canadian province of British Columbia. Glen May debuted his Cranberry Connection 1999 Ford Ranger late last year. This beautiful work of art is not only the quickest pickup but also the quickest Ford at an amazing 6.395 @ 214.38. This puts him almost two tenths quicker than the next racer.

The second quickest is a sleeper to say the least. Freddie Fagerstrom halls from Sweden no less and races a killer '65 Chevrolet pickup. The truck has a blown 570 cubic inch Chevrolet for power and in match race trim -- less weight and more boost -- has gone 6.575 @ 210.50.

The number three and four pickup trucks come from the same team. The Arizona-based Bowtie Bullet team of the Lee family races two matching downsized 7/8 scale Stepside Chevy pickups. The trucks both have 526-inch Pontiacs for power. Father Butch comes in at number three with a 6.607 @

209.69, while son Dale has gone 6.648 @ 210.21.

The first nitrous pickup comes in at number five and that is Glen Kerunsky from Alberta, Canada. The Breckridge Construction team, like fellow Canadian May, debuted a new pickup last year, but Kerunsky's was a Chevy S-10. The new S-10 replaces a full size Chevy that was no slouch itself, having run a

6.69. The new S-10 has gone 6.655 @ 209.50 racing in the Canadian Pro Mod class.

Jerry Mungle from Texas has had his pickup for almost twenty years and has updated it several times since then. He usually races on the Texas Quick 8 Association but ran his best time at a Super Chevy race. The silver and white full size truck went 6.705 @ 200.50 and comes in at number six.

1999 NMCA Pro Street champion Bob Rieger is the pickup found at number seven. The trick pickup was built in 1999 with a naturally aspirated 814 cubic inch Sonny Leonard Pro Stock engine, but that engine was replaced by a twin turbocharged Ken Duttweiller motor. The flamed black beauty -- despite racing politics -- has gone 6.706 @ 208.46 in Pro Street trim.

The number eight pickup was unopposed as the quickest and fastest for years. The pickup of Canadian Joe Delehay was built in 1992 and has a gone 6.830 @

205.50. Delehay was the first six-second pickup along with being the first 200-mile per hour pickup. Delehay races in the West Coast Pro Mod Association and match races these days.

Chuck Samuel comes in at number nine with his twin turbocharged 1999 S-10 pickup. The car has a 445 cubic inch big block for power. The Michigan racer is banging on the door to the sixes with an ever so close 7.000 @ 199.15, run this year in NMCA Pro Street.

The final racer on the list is the only one on grooved tires. Long time sportsman racer Corky Markwart debuted his trick Richard Earle-built 1999 Dodge Dakota pickup late last year. He races the car with a 648-inch Chevrolet with a shot of nitrous in the Outlaw Pro Street class. He has a best run of 7.022 @ 205.29; a six-second pass is in the future.

Other racers who came close but did not make the top ten were Bob Dixon at

7.105 @ 195.30 in his 1955 Chevy Cameo pickup, Justin Morgan at 7.105 @ 190 in his full size, 140-inch wheelbase '95 Chevrolet pickup, and Mark Thomas from New Zealand, who has gone 7.162 @ 191.15 in his blown KB Holden Ute.

THE DRAG RACING LIST'S TOP TEN PICKUP LIST

1 6.395 @ 214.38 Glen May '99 Ranger/526" Ford

2 6.575 @ 210.50 Freddie Fagerstrom '65 Chevy/570" Chevy

3 6.607 @ 209.69 Butch Lee '97 Chevy/526" Pontiac

4 6.648 @ 210.21 Dale Lee '90 Chevy/526" Pontiac

5 6.655 @ 209.50 Glen Kerunsky '99 S-10/706" Pontiac

6 6.705 @ 209.50 Bob Mungle '90 Chevy/526" Pontiac

7 6.706 @ 208.46 Bob Rieger '99 S-10/388" Chevy

8 6.830 @ 205.50 Joe Delehay '72 Chevy/632" Chevy

9 7.000 @ 199.15 Chuck Samuel '99 S-10/445" Chevy

10 7.022 @ 205.29 Corky Markwart '99 Dakota/648" Pontiac

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That's all interesting reading, but I still don't see any 7,000lb+ one ton duallys.

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Luke

Yeah, that was about all I found...I was hoping for more specifics about that truck, or others similar to it...

This other guy is a fool...It doesn't appear that he understands how hard it is to run in the 12's with ANY type of full bodied car, let alone one that weighs as much as a truck and has such lousy aerodynamics.

One thing I noticed on the video is that the first 60 ft or so of the run is very lazy, probably due to no boost, and that the shifting was relatively slow, in drag racing terms. Can you imagine how quick that truck would be with a trans-brake equipped Torqueflite and a stall of about 3000? He could have boost right away! I'd say it would be good for mid-11's...Amazing for something so heavy!

Anddddd...I think I only hear 6 cylinders when it goes by...am I right?

Gerard

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geewhiz

Pictures of the Cranberry Connection Concoction can be found @

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Plasyd

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Plasyd

You guys just don't get it do you? Show me a gasser that weighs 7,000 lbs, as aerodynamic as a barn that pulls a low 12. We're talking stockers with a hopped up engine.

NOT, custom built dragsters that happen to have a fiberglass or carbonfiber pickup body on it.

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Trey

While working in the Philippines last year I worked with a manager from a power company with an Isuzu equipped with a turbo diesel. Diesels are very common in the Philippines. He installed a timing device that allowed him to turn his ignition off, lock the vehicle and walk away. The timer kept the engine idling for a minute or so and then shut off the engine. Nice feature.

Charles Perry P.E.

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Charles Perry

The Isuzu motor is what the Chevrolet Duramax has in it.Dodge has the Cummins and Ford has the International.....

Those video clips are awsome!!! Thanks for those...........

Reply to
Burnett

I get it.

While the diesels in the videos (and discussion) are impressive, if a person throws the same kind of money and parts at a gas engine they can also build a very fast 7K lbs truck. The question is why would you really want to?

Matt

99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
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