Main Relay Replacement for Starting Problem '93 Accord

Aug 05, 2010 9 Replies

My '93 Accord occasionally refuses to start usually in hot weather. I can usually get it going after waiting for a period of time and several tries. After doing some research, the symptoms all point toward a possible main relay problem.



Question: I noticed the clock was off by several hours. I know that a disconnected or weak battery would cause this but the battery and connections are fine. When I try to start it, the engine cranks strongly, and I have not over cranked it and worn the battery down. How could the starting problem be related to the clock being so far off?



Thanks,



Rob


My '90 SM4 was meant for a cold climate & had many flaws ( so starting esp when hot was difficult ) e.g. ( too many to list all ) [i] ALB uses nearly 40 amp = ½ of alternator 's maximum output @ high rpm : even after I corrected / mitigated every flaw, ALB still uses too many amps, so I disabled ALB, only then battery & spark plugs can get enough amps. [ii] windows' motors' relay wasted amps, til bypassed [iii] injectors' resistors wasted 19.3 watt, I replaced them with a buck convertor & 5 inductors & 1 diode & 5 capacitors, only then can injectors be cool enough to stay clean so engine starts faster & torquer [iv] alternator had no cooling, I added cooling & got more amps [v] doors & boot & key slot's bulbs wasted amps, til removed [vi] EGR & air intake valve both wasted amps, til disabled. [vii] air intake heating all disabled, to suit a warm climate. [viii] wiper motor's plastic cover removed to let out hot air. Only now my F20A starts very well, slow idle torque is 2x of original, can idle stably ( w-o load ) @ just 550 rpm, on highway with coasting ( & nitrogen ) can go 18 km per litre of just RON95 !

Whoa, that was quite a mouthful!

Also his aluminum foil beanie shorted our the flux inverter.

That wasn't the orifice I was thinking of.

there's only one thing scarier than chea's ridiculous bullshit on this topic - the fact that he might actually believe it.

| Whoa, that was quite a mouthful!

1 easy way to tell if injectors' nozzles are clogged, is to connect a digital voltmeter to O2 sensor's output & see if voltage* is stable during idling ( w-o load ) : if clogged, * will fluctuate between -.1 to +.5 v, if clean then +.19 to +.32 v . Console should let users see this *, esp now when digital volt meters are far cheaper than in '90.

"TE Cheah" wrote in news:4d19d3be snipped-for-privacy@news.tm.net.my:

Where on earth do you get this nonsense?

The oxygen sensor should flip-flop regularly between +0.1 and +0.9 volts. Anything else means the sensor is bad.

And chances are good that a digial VOM will react far too slowly to accurately display the flip-flops, which occur several times a second at idle.

| Where on earth do you get this nonsense? Oscilloscopes are costly & bulky, my readings are from a japan made OKII-28 meter & I think are the averages of voltages read within each report interval. These readings make sense ; smaller fluctuation when nozzles are clean, & lower reading during idle.

| The oxygen sensor should flip-flop regularly between +0.1 and +0.9 volts. This is per

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"TE Cheah" wrote in news:4d1aaf3b$1 snipped-for-privacy@news.tm.net.my:

Honda does not use any such thing.

Carley's data generally applies to Honda O2 sensors. All oxygen sensors operate on the same basic principles.

The word "transitions" means the flip-flops between .1 and .9.

If you can't see the transitions, then you can't see what the sensor is doing.

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