On Wed, 14 May 2008 20:53:23 -0700, jim beam wrote:
This article says, "Learning from failures."
Having never failed, no lesson need be learned. There are books and SMART
people out there. I learn by doing and picking brains. I see yours is
So why didn't you change the oil every 1000 miles or every 500 miles? It
would have had the same effect on longevity as 3000 mile oil changes or
5000 mile oil changes. Don't you want to buy all the cheap insurance you
You seem to think that getting 200,000 miles out of a car is some
spectacular achievement that requires doing far more maintenance than
Recreational oil changing is pretty wasteful. All the experts agree that
there is no additional benefit to the engine from changing the oil that
On my Corolla, I have 260,000 miles. That's 81 oil changes at about 3,200
miles between changes. At an average of $2/qt, that's $650. I buy filters
in bulk, since I usually have two cars that use the same filter. I get
genuine Toyota filters, by the case, for about $3.50 each.
Over the life of the car I have had no oil related failures, it doesn't
burn oil no blow-by, nothing. The engine responds like it did the day I
bought the car.
And if you average the life of the car, that works out to an oil change
every 3 months.
$650 sounds like cheap insurance to me.
Again, if you believe that 3000 mile oil changes are what is preserving
your Corolla, then why don't you do even more and do oil changes every
1000 miles. There's just as much evidence that 1000 mile oil changes are
more beneficial than 5000 mile oil changes than 3000 mule oil changes
being more beneficial than 5000 mile oil changes (in both cases there is
no evidence at all).
You're throwing money away in an illogical and misguided belief that
you're doing your engine a favor by changing the oil far more often than
necessary. You'd have gotten the same service out of the Corolla doing
the 5000 mile oil changes.
You're talking about a Corolla here. They could mount guns on them and
send them into battle as a tank. I know someone who routinely ran their
Corolla 10,000 miles between oil changes and they still had over 200K
miles on it whent they sold it 15 years later.
You've somehow reached the erroneous conclusion that having no
oil-related failures is due to changing the oil far more often than
necessary. Yet if you ask any Toyota mechanic (or any independent
mechanic for that matter) about the longevity of a Corolla maintained
according the factory recommended schedule you'd also find no oil
You need to learn to look at the big picture, and think logically. Don't
draw baseless conclusions.
In fact, you probably lost some of the engine life from you cars by
changing the intitial oil too early, but again that's not something that
you'll ever know for sure.
Wow! Thanks for an intelligent response rather than coming back with the
OK, maybe I'm wrong with the 1,500 mile oil change. I dunno. I will stick
to the 3,000 miles, however, esp on the older cars. On my Scion I set the
'reminder' to 4,500 miles since that car is running synthetic.
However, I also take into account other factors. If the oil looks dirty,
out it goes, but not before 3,000 miles. There have been times I didn't
change the oil right at 3,000, but usually before 5,000. If at 3,000 it
looks dirty, it goes.
Toyota engines run hot, and heat doesn't help motor oil at all.
I also occasionally treat it to some Slick 50, too...
3000 mile change?
4500 mile change on synthetic?
change it when it "looks dirty"?
"toyota engines run hot"???
"heat doesn't help motor oil"???
you use slick 50?
dude, sheep are made to be fleeced. you're a sheep. you're getting
On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:36:56 -0700, jim beam wrote:
Those scoffs above show you're an idiot.
My cars run well for a couple hundred thousand miles, I get better economy
than the EPA rated mileage in everyday driving, my cars pass EPA inspections
as well at 200,000 miles as they did new,I don't have to do a lot
of repairs, or change rings, or have knocking sounds, and I drive like a
bat out of hell.
What do you do? wait until it no longer registers on the dipstick, and
then add a few quarts till the next time?
Tell me, what the fuck is *WRONG* with you?
On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:43:59 -0700, jim beam wrote:
I'm a retard because I told someone to change his oil in a new car after a
3,000 mile road trip?
I knew from the first time you answered a post of mine you were nothing
but an asshole. Thanks for proving it.
If you knew half as much as you think you do, you'd still be an imbecile.
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