Correct Lift Procedures?

Oct 18, 2004 12 Replies

I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had put the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift? I looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts and pro's and cons for each?



Thanks!



PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.


I think the Spring Over Axle (SOA) is a great lift for a CJ or YJ! 8" is an exaggeration though unless lift springs are used. More like 5-6" with stock springs. Spring wrap can be a problem depending on springs used and available torque. My stock CJ springs with an add-a-leaf don't have any wrap. I see Bill left a good link to get started.

What you found is called a Spring Over. A spring over is a common way to lift a leaf-sprung vehicle, and in some cases the factory fitment of the springs is a spring over - there are no CJs with a spring over from the factory, but I am pretty sure there are other models that come with spring overs stock.

In any case, the "lift" is measured by the springs themselves, so you might say, "I have a 2.5" lift with a spring over." Since the spring over results in about 3.5 inches, you have a total lift of 6". If you only had a spring over, you would lift your Jeep about 3.5". Get it?

The Jeep you found sounds like it has 4" springs on top of the spring over, giving you what you estimate at 8" of lift.

Waggys came with one axle spring over, and one spring under.

Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

XJ/MJ rear is also spring-over stock.

Steve

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Dave Milne wrote:

The XJ is, but the Comanche isn't.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Steve wrote:

I stand corrected. Thanks.

Steve

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Mike Roma> The XJ is, but the Comanche isn't.

That's what was stuck in my head when I suggested there were models that came as spring overs. The Wagoneers had a spring over on the back, but not the front. < he said, not noticing that Dave already knew that>

what Dave doesn't know is *why* they did that ?!?

And Greg wants to know how you lift one, do spring over in front and 3" blocks in back? Freind just bought a 75 cherokee cheif, needs lifting.

Yup, that's the way. You can get anti wrap blocks too. These are longer or have a longer piece attached to keep the torque from twisting the springs.

Longer bump stops and shocks are also needed to do it right.

This just gets you clearance, it does not help with articulation as the stock axle travel is still there.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Greg wrote:

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