ebay items I Listed

Jan 01, 2006 88 Replies

I just have to ask here... Does the one where it was posted "Now That's a real Jeep" on 12/22 and a link to an Ebay auction count? The auction was active, just ended at $75k.

I think you are being too harsh on the guy Bill. He's just selling some of his own stuff.... I know I'm new here and all that but still.... It's not like he's in BUSINESS to sell Jeep stuff. I googled him and find posts from him dating all the way back to 1999.

So, if I decided to auction off some Jeep stuff that I took off of my KJ- it would be verboten to say so here?

If an individaual is selling something at auction, as a private party, I do not think it can be considered commercial. If it is a BUSINESS or an Ebay STORE then it would be commercial. This is just a guy selling a few Jeep parts and a bunch of baby stuff. Need a new woobie?

Personally I would rather buy from someone on Ebay because with the Ebay listing there is the added protection of dispute management, feedback ratings to know who you are buying from AND if you pay via PayPal you have buyer's protection. Somehting you would not necessarily have if just buying from any schmoe that popped in and said he had parts for sale.

Ayway, my two cents worth in a two dollar slop bucket .

Why the heck would they? It looked as if it It was listed as a point of interest but what if it wasn't ?

So you completely ignored everything else I had to say? Dang Bill.... that's messed up.

KJK

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: "KJ.Kate" wrote: : >

: > I just have to ask here... : > Does the one where it was posted : > "Now That's a real Jeep" : > on 12/22 and a link to an Ebay auction count? : > The auction was active, just ended at $75k. : >

: > I think you are being too harsh on the guy Bill. : > He's just selling some of his own stuff.... : > I know I'm new here and all that but still.... : > It's not like he's in BUSINESS to sell Jeep stuff. : > I googled him and find posts from him dating all the way back to 1999. : >

: > So, if I decided to auction off some Jeep stuff that I took off of my KJ- it : > would be verboten to say so here? : >

: > If an individaual is selling something at auction, as a private party, I do : > not think it can be considered commercial. : > If it is a BUSINESS or an Ebay STORE then it would be commercial. This is : > just a guy selling a few Jeep parts and a bunch of baby stuff. Need a new : > woobie? : >

: > Personally I would rather buy from someone on Ebay because with the Ebay : > listing there is the added protection of dispute management, feedback : > ratings to know who you are buying from AND if you pay via PayPal you have : > buyer's protection. Somehting you would not necessarily have if just buying : > from any schmoe that popped in and said he had parts for sale. : >

: > Ayway, my two cents worth in a two dollar slop bucket : > .

whatever....

: > Why the heck would they? : > It looked as if it It was listed as a point of interest but what if it : > wasn't ? : >

: > So you completely ignored everything else I had to say? : > Dang Bill.... that's messed up. : >

: > KJK

The fact that some of you are surprised by this whole thread or are waiting for Billy to apologize makes me think that you don't read this group much.

In this group it's ok for Billy to post links to alcohol burning funny cars (because large displacement Detroit iron is the only way to go fast) but if someone mentions a Toyota Landcruiser they are in violation and will be told so.

I bitched about off-topic posting in another unmoderated newsgroup years ago and was told "it's like a water cooler where everyone gathers and can discuss whatever they want to".

I don't buy that anymore than I buy Bill's narrow interpetation of this RAMJ&W Charter.

The OP had a non-commercial, on-topic posting for Jeep parts. I checked out his auctions and didn't see anything I needed, but hopefully his stuff will sell.

IMNSHO the OP was fine and didn't deserve to be reported to the Abuse police.

Matthew '82CJ-7 matthewf_boi at yahoo.com

Wonder if Tim read this:

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Bill's right...Tim's a spamming asshole.

-- Old Crow '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now) BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2 "There's only 1 RE"

Wrong answer, Bunky:

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-- Old Crow '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now) BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2 "There's only 1 RE"

The only thing I see wrong with this post is that there is no description of the items begin sold. You have to go to Ebay to find out. Too much work my my lazy self.

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You are out of line Bill. The charter clearly states:

It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling parts by non-commercial vendors.

The OP is clearly selling a couple of extra items off of his Jeep. (They are all various soft top parts)

The fact that he is using e-bay as a vehicle to sell them is immaterial, the ***VENDOR*** is clearly non commerical, the vehicle is e-bay.

So fess up that you are being your usual ignorant, obnoxious self an appologize to Tim Fisher, Jim Smith, Kate, and the rest of those that you have insulted.

And if you respond to this in your usual antongonistic way, I'll be glad to engage in the usual flame war. With some luck I can get your blood pressure off the chart.

Cheers.

Mike Roma> Forwarded to: snipped-for-privacy@ptd.net

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--snippy--

You are wrong, Roy. The individual you named actually experiences a calming effect from flame wars and antagonizing others. That is why he seeks them out.

Earle

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: So fess up that you are being your usual ignorant, obnoxious self an : appologize to Tim Fisher, Jim Smith, Kate, and the rest of those that : you have insulted.

psst .. Roy.... he didn't insult me. He ignored me - more or less. Someone warned me in the beginning that he can be a curmudgeon, I made note and expect him to be a grump sometimes.

No harm, no foul but thanks for the chivalrous intention. Now in my opinion it's the OP that deserves an apology.

But then there is a saying about opinions....

KJK

Hey Old Crow, From the link you posted: "eBay users may not post on Usenet groups (Internet newsgroups) to advertise eBay or an eBay listing that is inappropriate or violates the Usenet board policy."

Note that it does *NOT* say that usenet posts cannot be made, only that

*inappropriate* posts cannot be made. Since the Charter allows posting of an individual's jeep items for sale, and these were Jeep door parts, the EBay policy was not violated.

Bill owes Tim an apology.

The argument has always been made that EBAY items are not "for sale", they are "for auction". A lot of people see that as a major distinction and get really annoyed when EBAY auctions are portrayed as "for sale". Usually, putting "FA" in the SUBJECT line instead of "FS" will keep you out of hot water, but that depends on the current mood of those that police.

tw _____________________________________________________________________

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Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 > Old Crow wrote:

From the charter: "It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling parts by non-commercial vendors."

Perhaps it is time to revise the charter, if everyone besides Bill is offended to personal eBay auction items. I don't think this violates eBay's Usenet policy, since our charter doesn't address eBay auctions by personal individuals, which is different from companies trying to sell their wares through eBay.

Nope. eBay is a tool used by both "commercial" and "non-commercial vendors."

No worries, Kate, occasionally Bill gets overly crotchety...

Right, and Tim never said he had items for sale, he said he had items listed on eBay.

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