For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport

Is that the going price?

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Tom

Hi Bill:

Do you mean the trade-in value of the '02, or the price of the new Rubi? I never got a trade-in value from the dealer. I just told him I was going to sell the '02 myself.

I got the "FFP" price on the new Rubi, which is Jeep's "Family, Friends & Partners" price which is 1% below the factory invoice price. I got a $500 rebate on top of that.

Tom

Never asked him, but I'm sure it was low.

Tom

I don't know how it works in California, but in Ohio when you transfer a vehicle title, you enter the buyer's name and address on the title, vehicle mileage, etc., then the seller signs & dates it and has his signature notarized. The buyer then takes the title to the Ohio Title Bureau and has the vehicle title transferred into his name. I suppose that technically there is a period of time when the buyer is driving the seller's vehicle (until the title actually transfers) but I think the buyers dated and notarized signature on the title would alleviate him of any responsibility. But then again, I am not a lawyer, so I don't know for sure how this works.

Tom

mabar is right.... just get everything signed and dated and milage & vin # at sale and keep copies handy!!

-- Jarod Sprauer

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I sold a car once where the seller NEVER registered it. He drove it around with a plate he had laying around his garage.

My lawyer explained that the ownership passed when I had a signed and dated bill of sale in my hand, and I signed the back of the title to the next owner. The odometer reading on the BOS and title states an even more exact moment of when the legal ownership of the vehicle passed.

Think about it. Used car dealers never register cars to themselves.

Lots of folks believe that a bill of sale is only useful for establishing the selling price for tax purposes. The document covers a seller's ass much more than the buyer.

Also in Ohio the license plates are registered to owner not the vehicle. When I sell a car the plates come with me. The buyer can get temporary 30 day plates from their neighborhood registrar with the signed over title and bill of sale. Those plates are registered to him.

If I remember correctly in Kalifornia the license plates are registered to the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years later.

Is my memory correct?

In CA (KA), The seller fills out a notice of sale or transfer.