OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading

I vote the 7 mag. Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is reasonable.

Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from "Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Kevin Sperle" :

Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels. ;-)

You must be in the 44" with 5.89 camp! ;-)

I've got a buddy trying to sell me his "barely used" Weatherby Vanguard Synthetic 7mm Rem Mag. Actually it is in great shape and I know he's only hunted with it once or twice. I know the vanguards are made specifically for Wal-Mart and the actions are produced by Howa out of Japan instead of by Weatherby though.

As far as new stuff, been looking at Ruger M77's, Remington 700's and some Savages. Trying to keep in that general price range since I need $$ to finish my tub swap :-)

I won't recommend a tire/gear combo for you, but I'll give you my $.02 on the rifle. The .30-06 is about the most versatile caliber out there, and can be loaded for anything from varmints to moose. The 7mm Mag is more than adequate for the big game, but it lacks the versatility of the 06. Many people hunt elk with a .270, and a well placed shot will take down an elk no problem. There is also a .300 Winchester Mag and .338 Winchester Mag that will do the job. All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most versatile gun, I'd choose the .30-06. If you can get a deal on that Weatherby though, I would snag that in a heartbeat because it will do the job nicely as well.

Chris

choose the .30-06.

Yeah, I'm pretty much down to deciding between .30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag. Elk is my main desire, but I won't rule out wanting to hunt deer or antelope someday.

heartbeat because it will

I can get the Weatherby with a 3x9 Leupold scope and Burris one piece mounts for $450, or I can get his Remmington 700 BDL .30-06 with the same scope/mount combo for the same price.

A brand new Weatherby Vanguard sells for $389 + plus approx $40? for those mounts, and $199 for the same scope, + about $49 (tax) = $677 brand new Savings of about $227 for buying slightly used.

Hi Kevin,

Here in Eagle County we predominantly use the common three: 30-06, 270, and

7mm. I've met a lot of avid hunters here between Vail and Gypsum that have hunted here, some for over 50 seasons. I see the 30-06 and the 270 as a close tie. I've shot both and think both are great firearms. I can't very well give you my view of a 7mm because I've never fired one. However, the folks I know that use them, like them alot. Personally I think their "Over Kill". Remember all three of these guns will kill Elk and Deer (Fact). The limiting factor is shooter skill. The 30-06 and 270 IMO are all you need. A well placed shot will do the job. What I have seen is that the people who use the 7mm (also IMO) don't need a well placed shot. I've seen a deer get knocked off it's feet just by a 7mm round that hit the ground under-neath it. Of course it got up and run off, but it gave the shooter another chance while the animal was stunned, which again in this case, he missed the second shot as well.

I'd base your purchase around the terrain you plan to hunt. 30-06 IMO fair better in the forests. In the forest, speed doesn't play as big a role. They seem to be able to go through a twig or leaves without being knocked of course too far, which depends on the final distance. While still maintaining plenty of knock down. The 270 is close, but the speed and lighter grain I think fair better with open area distance shooting (fields/range land). The ballistic trajectory can handle distance better while maintaining precision and accuracy. Lastly, remember the bigger/heavier the bullet is directly effects the quantity and quality of your cuts of meat and steaks.

Maybe try to find a gun range or club that you could visit and try out the different calibers to find which firearm matches your shooting skills.

All the Best, Paul

Synthetic stocks, I don't think handle recoil as comfortably as wood.

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"Kevin Sperle" wrote

Easy ... drop $900 and get both. ;-)

If I owned one hunting rifle, it would be a 30.06. If I owned two, it would be a .270 and a 300 Mag.

Wow!

Duck looks like he got away, if he got pinged, he should have been flipping over.

Mike

Evan wrote:

I'd go with the 35's and 4.56 gears then I'd lock em'up like you would your favorite gun.

-- JimG

80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

Ain't the Vangard made in japan?

Yeah, made by Howa out of Japan. I took a look at the Remington 700 BDL up close last night at a gun store. Assuming my buddies is in good shape, I'll probably buy it this weekend. That 7mm is a sweet little round though. But there's so many more choices of ammo for the .30-06.

Any of those is capable of doing the job.

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