101 heater vent control cable - any LR part alternative?

Right then Richard. I've peroused your site.

whats the difference between all those choke cables?

Ignoring the genuine expensive ones. is the only difference between V8 and 2.5/2.25 choke cables the length of it? any chance of some rough measurements? or do you know if one will fit a 101 hand throttle?

and to reply to my own thread again.. Richard (Im not trying to be cheeky here!) - can you get universal chokes in for the same sort of price as VWP (£5odd+VAT)? and if not then why not? ;) I'd have thought theyd sell well to most series owners who arnt fussed about originality?

Tom Woods uttered summat worrerz funny about:

Universal choke cables... had three from different suppliers. They are the DEVILS SPAWN!

Avoid them and fit something genuine.

Thats my 2p worth.

That bloke up King street has packed in cables, I asked at Folley MC's and they said he's no longer doing them / moved. They have his remaining bits and do the odd cable. They quoted £25 for a 101 Accelerator cable if thats anything to go by.

Lee D

Agreed, they are all rubbish. Especially for something like V8 carbs with their multiple linkages only genuine ones are worth looking at, universal ones die after no time, genuine ones last many years.....

Regards

William MacLeod

I think I could be if that is what a choke cable generally is!

I know that i can shorten them myself....

Lee and Willie - points taken about universal ones! I'll go for britpart ones atleast then. I can go hassle Richard if they break really quickly then! ;)

Since the ones im looking at from beamends are likely to cost 20-30 for the pair this probably means it isnt worth buying a kit which will probably cost more that that!

Also Lee - My 101 accelerator cable looks like it is new! (it doesnt have any green paint on and wasnt routed very well until I P clipped it in earlier!). - thats one job i wont have to do! :)

Also - the choke cable broke on my car today. must be something in the air! Now i have to go and fix my manifold air leak tommorrow so i can start it without the choke properly!

The pedal end clevis slid off my "genuine" cable after less than two years use.

Steve

I'm not listening! :p

On or around Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:35:12 +0100, Tom Woods enlightened us thusly:

wot are the ends like, and is it a cable (flexible, pull-only and spring return) or a wire (single strand, rigid, push-pull).

If it's a cable the chances are I can make one from bike cable parts.

Heater vent control cable

As far as i can tell should stop in any position you want (or should it just be at either end 101 owners?). moves a flap above the heater fan motor that directs the air to the screen vents or the cab. currently siezed solid.

has a plastic knob on the top at the moment but im not fussed how it ends up. Seems to need 1-1.5 inches of movement (judging from the arm on the motor)

hand throttle cable:

Funny curved bit seems like it sits on a little adjustable height stool that is next to it in the truck to keep it in the correct position. I think the stool is broken too as it doesnt seem to like adjusting and just appears to spin. I'd be happy putting a normal choke cable on this since its very rare im ever going to use the handthrottle anyhow! (pretty much just for jump starting!)

Currently siezed up and the metal slieve is broken so it falls apart just under that nut that holds it in the hole

On or around Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:00:46 +0100, Tom Woods enlightened us thusly:

they're mostly a solid wire on that sort of thing. it's the inner part of the able that's the relevant bit, really.

that looks suitably weird. I've often thought of adapting a friction type derailleur control lever as a hand throttle; but like you, I never really need one. handy if you've got an engine-driven winch, but apart from that...

Is that the technical name for 'a funny curvy hand throttle with a stool type thing next to it' then? :)

I can see that it gives a fair bit of exact control over the engine speed but a simple one would have done the job just as well wouldnt it?

If my 101 ever gets a winch then it will most likely be an electrical one. The only time i've ever used the hand throttle in a landy myself is for jump starting other vehicles without having an assistant to rev it for you! I do use the choke in my car (which is in effect a hand throttle on a carbed LPG vehicle isnt it?) to keep my car ticking over faster when im sat in queue's as the water pump seems to do a much better job of cooling at 1500 rpm than normal idle speed!. I suppose the same could be done on the 101 too.

Hum, I thought a bowden cable was one that transmited rotational energy from one end to the other not push/pull... However a google produces loads of push/pull type answers. So what is the name of a cable that transmits rotation?

Getting back to the heater cable, the ones I've seen operating similar dampers on various cars have all been solid cored and use the total friction of the system to hold the damper in the set place. Some of that frisction might be provided by the bearings or rubbing strips on the operating lever.

On or around Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:05:46 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice" enlightened us thusly:

speedo drive :-)

yeah, most of that type of appliation seem to be solid cores. a hand-throttle one is almost certainly a cable though.

On or around Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:21:12 +0100, Tom Woods enlightened us thusly:

hehe. no, it's the technical name for one kind of bicycle gear lever. Mostly only old fogeys have 'em now, modern things are generally clicky indexed ones.

yeah, 's good for that. can do that easily on the 300 TDi as the "throttle" cable has a hand-adjustable stop. it'd be a bastard on the fly-by-wire minibus though, since the throttle pots are on the pedal unit, not under the bonnet. Mind, it ought to be possible to do it electrically on them - fake an "engine cold" signal and it goes into fast-idle mode.

Ex-military friend of mine (Richard "Bodger" MacDougall-Smith of Bristol) told me that the first time he drove a 101 he didn't know what the wheely bit was for, so wound it all the way. Nothing happened, so he thought it did nothing - till he took his foot off the accelerator and didn't slow down! Brown shreddies time...

Stuart