Please sign this petition to show your support for landrover and british manufacturing
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Please sign this petition to show your support for landrover and british manufacturing
Have you ever had sex?
Sorry, with a woman?
Keyboard!!!!
Tata have loads of money, and don't need any support. Giving them money would just be lining the pockets of Tata's owners.
Agreed. They've paid the first instalment on my contract with them this week so they must be flush ... here begineth the next world tour :-)
There are a couple of flaws in your argument. Firstly, JLR aren't British owned so the Gov't would simply be subsidising a foreign business' activity. Secondly, JLR are a small bit player in the automotive world - even the UK bit which is dominated by the likes of Toyota and Honda. More jobs are on the line with these companies ... but I don't see you suggesting HMG supports them.
Chances are that Tata would be delighted to move the whole operation to India.
Lower labour charges, property available for next to nothing, virtually no taxes on an operation such as this, the state government in Gujarat already supporting a Tata vehicle production plant and a vast domestic market for a Defender type vehicle.
The money is to stop them doing that and keeping the jobs in the UK.
What would be the point of buying two iconic British brands then shipping them to India? I doubt it's going to happen as the brands would be ruined.
Sounds like the best offeri he'd get .. ;)
In this particular case the brands don't matter.
What matters is that there's a market in India for the product.
The UK government is busy destroying the domestic market for large 4x4s on purely doctrinal grounds, there's no valid environmental reason because of vehicle lifecycle times.
The US market doesn't care where the big luxury 'drug dealer' wagons come from.
The big emerging market for a Defender type vehicle is the Far East.
On or around Wed, 7 Jan 2009 22:11:37 -0000, "Nige" enlightened us thusly:
WTF is a cockfart?
There is no historical evidence to support your assertion. Quite=20 contrary, in fact, Tata have a reputation for maintaining businesses in=20 the country that they were purchased in. Corus is a case in point: they=20 could have easily transferred steel production to India (where they had=20 excess capacity) from the UK but they didn't, despite Corus losing close =
to =A3250K per day at one point. Yes, steel plants have closed since Tata= =20 took over but not so that production could be shifted elsewhere.
As we (the tax payer) and this stupid Government has already seen,=20 paying a foreign company to keep jobs in the UK doesn't guarantee that=20 they will ... witness the asset stripping of the MG/Rover plants. Let's=20 not venture down that route again.
--=20 Regards
Steve G
I'd like to see your evidence for that statement. As far as I have seen (with my own eyes) the Far East is awash with Japanese and Korean utility vehicles that are better made and cheaper than the Defender.
Didn't the real asset stripping happen before Nanking (sp?) took over ?
Steve
There is no historical evidence to support your assertion. Quite contrary, in fact, Tata have a reputation for maintaining businesses in the country that they were purchased in. Corus is a case in point: they could have easily transferred steel production to India (where they had excess capacity) from the UK but they didn't, despite Corus losing close to £250K per day at one point. Yes, steel plants have closed since Tata took over but not so that production could be shifted elsewhere.
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Perhaps I should have prefaced my remarks with the words "Tata's well known business principles notwithstanding'
Both India and China have high tariffs on imported vehicles.
India certainly has a market for a bigish domestically produced reasonably modern 4x4 like the Defender.
SG: Which is why existing cheaper, better made Japanes and Korean utility vehicles are so popular in China.
SG: Does it? YOU might think so but there's no obvious evidence of it. Tata already manufacture a range of modern 4x4 and utility vehicles in India - why would they want to add an ancient design like the Defender to their existing portfolio? From personal experience (i.e. I've driven them) the Tata Sumo is streets ahead of the Defender in terms of comfort and built quality and is about 50% of the cost.
BTW, if you really think the Defender is a "reasonably modern" vehicle then you need to get out more :-)
And about 50% of the size as well.
It's a lot more 'car like' and far more a 'small Disco' than anything else.
It certainly isn't suitable for rural use in India.
Harder to do than a fannyfart I bet.
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