OT: could my landy pull 155 tons too? :)

The V10 Touareg had masses of torque & I mean masses. The tyres last for a few thousand miles if it's used too much. It is a beast like no other, NO LR can even come close to the sheer pulling power of it. It will however break down after a few hundred miles & leave you stranded on your way to France...........

Tom Woods uttered summat worrerz funny about:

It's a rolling load though with little resistance, appears impressive on the face of it but the trucks they normally shunt them around with hardly appear to be monsters by any strech of the imagination. Excellent gimick though.

Once got a Fuel tanker stuck as it came out of the old Esso on Longton road the trailer pushed the tractor unit as he braked whilst turning hard left on to the main road and lifted the rear axle rendering the tractor unit unmoveable as it had no diff lock. I was a mere PC then and called for the traffic unit to come along in the Landie... as always once they had clarified that a) no paperwork and b) don't need to get out of car c ) didn't involve running ;-) they came... hooked up the rope, dropped it in low and gentley pulled the stranded artic (loaded) along the road to a point where it was safe. This was all much to the bemusement of my then supervisor who had spent 10 minutes telling me it would never work and we needed to call out a wrecker asap.

Ah the good old days!

Lee D

Was it a series one??? LOL!!!! Hearbeat !

Nige uttered summat worrerz funny about:

Erre! I'm not as old as you look you know! :-)

Fecking big paper round!

Lee D

The whole A1???

LOL!!!

Kiddin! It's been a long day on the BMW, gonna do some trails tomorrow!

I cant find the pic right now, but I recall a discovery (might have been pre-launch) pulling 350 tonnes of train at Chatham Docks - again its all about a rolling load though, once it started moving inertia did its thing etc...

Si

You need weight to pull weight and looking at the blurb with a gross weight of just over 7000Kg's and low gearing I should think a series Landy could do just as well, maybe its a challenge we could take up and put the Toe rag in its place as a town school run car ;-)) he he he.....

Rich

Yes, a 2a probably can do it, i've seen them moving Traction Engines before now, without any difficulty. You can buy a standard Unimog, with adaptions for train shunting, which will quite happily shunt

200tons of cargo train along the rails. It's not a particuarly impressive stunt to pull a plane with a VW Towrag.

Alex

For all I know you could do that with a 4WD electric wheelchair so long as the batteries held out.

Dunno but my Uncle Jacko had a regular job recovering broken down artics off the M6 at around the Leyland area with his series LWB he did say there was more than enough grunt however it did go through clutches its the getting them rolling that is the problem (overcoming inertia) I never did ask how he recharged the brake reservoirs . Derek

In message , Lee_D writes

A gimmick for which I believe LR were possibly fined and definitely rebuked by the advertising watchdogs after complaints. They had their ad pulled that showed a Disco pulling a plane as it was ruled that 'it couldn't be done in reality'. At the time there were several of us that were more than willing to give it a try - especially bearing in mind that most of the plane tugs were (are?) still only little Fergy tractor derivatives!

|| In message , Lee_D || writes ||| Tom Woods uttered summat worrerz funny ||| about: |||| a VW toerag moving a plane: ||| ||| It's a rolling load though with little resistance, appears ||| impressive on the face of it but the trucks they normally shunt ||| them around with hardly appear to be monsters by any strech of the ||| imagination. Excellent gimick though. ||| || A gimmick for which I believe LR were possibly fined and definitely || rebuked by the advertising watchdogs after complaints. They had || their ad pulled that showed a Disco pulling a plane as it was ruled || that 'it couldn't be done in reality'. At the time there were || several of us that were more than willing to give it a try - || especially bearing in mind that most of the plane tugs were (are?) || still only little Fergy tractor derivatives! || || -- || AndyG

Didn't they get away with that stunt where a Defender (supposedly) winched itself up a dam, on the basis that it was clearly not a real example of what a Defender could do, and just an imaginative way of presenting the capability of the vehicle?

Or would need to do in honesty!!

On or around Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:00:00 +0000, Tom Woods enlightened us thusly:

"The vehicle was a standard production Touareg fitted with a special towing adaptor to connect it with the aircraft towing link and loaded with 4345kg of metal ballast to bring its total weight to 7030kg, including the driver, an engineer from the technical department at VW's headquarters in Germany."

The extra ballast is rather cheating. Although apparently this didn't cause any lasting damage.

Midland red used them to recover buses before some change in the law or other.

There was a bobby in the Tees Valley area who specialised in motorbike escorting of abnormal loads because he just LOVED the trucks. He wrote/writes for the truck magazines, and published a few picture books of Sunters, Wynns, and the others, shifting what looked to be entire chemical plants around Teesside.

In one book he described how an enormous load got itself stick on Billingham Bank -- the tractors were powerful enough, but had been baulked and had come to a halt. Apparently the torque converters couldn't get the load off from rest... they needed just a little bit of movement in order to engage (?).

The works Series 3 LWB pickup arrived, and hitched on to the front, and was able to give JUST enough extra assistance to get the whole thing moving again. As the author said, did it or didn't it pull the load (WELL in excess of 155 tons)? Up to a point it must have done, because the tractors couldn't move it on their own.

I bore the story in mind one day when a supermarket 16-wheeler had got similarly stuck on the bottom bend of a notorious hill near here -- he couldn't get rolling again, but couldn't reverse either because his trailer was wanting to go sideways. I hitched the 200Tdi RR to the front, and managed to give him JUST enough pull to get him gripping again. But the noises that my tow strap and hitch were making prompted me to decide never to attempt it again!

But the weekend before last we needed to shift our old hen house by a few feet. It was originally pulled into place on its skids by my Lightweight, but now I only have a TD4 Freelander to play with (until the Series 1 is renovated)... WHAT a difference the lack of a low ratio makes! I managed to pull a couple of feet, but then the clutch started making some warning smells, so after that the hen house stayed where it was.

I also have photographic evidence of a Haflinger (with special low gearing for use in aircraft carrier hangers) tow-starting a massive 4WD Ford County tractor, used for snow ploughing in the Yorkshire Moors. With a low enough ratio, you can pull virtually anything.

GRAEME ALDOUS Yorkshire.

Blimey, haflingers have got practically lawnmower engines in them! Must have had some fat blokes sitting in the back for ballast ;-)

I don't see a County tractor being a problem - I pulled a dead "diesel" traction engine off the show ground a Hartington Moor. Hitched up, wondering what would happen - pulled off in low second and...... effortless, didn't even go much over idle ( I was convinved I'd snap the rope!). I reckon I sold a lot of Defenders to the crowd and the traction engine boys that day.

Richard

I was thinking more about the weight to be honest, they weigh about

700 kilos. They've got cross-axle diff locks as standard, which helps but the tyres are tiny and very skinny. The engine gives out 21hp too which isn't much but it is low geared. Later models have an extra gear which is even lower still.

As for diesel traction engines, my dad used to have an Aveling Barford diesel road roller, one of the earliest ones with flywheels and one huge cylinder, it was a bit of a beast!