Am toying with idea of replacing my 17'' monitor with a 19'' flat panel one. Any recommendations/advice would be welcome. Am a complete novice so what should I be looking for? It would seem that the quality is dictated by cd/m2, contrast ratio, response time and resolution. Don't really know what thats all about if I'm honest. I'm obviously after the clearest picture and most usable screen, whatever that might be. Generally I don't do any gaming, but I do watch the odd dvd etc. what do I need?
One I was interested in was the following
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Have used Dell a lot before so am confident of the quality, but is it any good, or is there better deals to be had??
Graham
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I've had an Iiyama ProLite E481S for a year or so and cannot fault it.
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Bob Hobden
I use a 19 inch Dell and it's excellent.
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Neil Brownlee
I bought a 32" HDTV for the bedroom which also doubles as a monitor. You can get motion sickness if you sit too close ;-)
Prices are coming down...and a dual purpose one is very cool. I can use the PC and watch TV in the corner .... *or* .... watch TV and use the PC in the corner.....
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Graham G
I think Emma would kill me if I got another 32'' tv! Would love to (had thought about it) but cannot really justify the extra cost atm.
Cheers Graham
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Graham G
Cool, thanks.
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Graham G
Thanks, any thioughts on this one:
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Looks good, at the top of my budget thought thats the only thing.
Graham
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Mother
These are excellent monitors for the price - crikey, actually the price has come down somewhat - may treat Matt to one for his Birthday!
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Austin Shackles
On or around Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:40:08 +0100, "Graham G" enlightened us thusly:
they work best at the "native" resolution.
17" flat displays are more viewable space than a 17" monitor, so depending on what resolution you want, a 17" is maybe big enough - it'll look bigger than a 17" monitor.
response time (faster) contrast range (bigger) and brightness are all things to look for, AFAIK.
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Graham G
Is there any decernable difference between 16.2 million colours and
16.7million?
Have gone through every one of these screens and keep ending up at the same two. that is the only real difference, that and the price, the 16.7 is nearly £100 more
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EMB
Huge difference - 16.7M colours is 8 bit colour, 16.2M is 6 bit colour with some fancy dithering.
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Derek
Well if you are doing anything that requires movement on screen that is not the one you want 20ms refresh is slow and will give motion blur on games and movies (assuming thats your lobster) you need 16ms or better to have a chance . Best advise and this is fun too is take a trip down PC world on saturday and ask some 'spotty' with a badge for a demo I'll put a link at the end of tech info so you have the right questions to ask to wind him up.Other thing to watch is the screen resolution TFTs and LCDs need to run at their native resolution otherwise you can get ill defined images which makes text difficult to read and enemies difficult to snipe If you are running programs with a fixed screen size this may be a problem.Its useful also if your video card has a digital output and the screen digital input as you lose some image quality if the images go through an analogue stage not all 'digital' monitors have the correct inputs really defeats the object of the exercise. see Tom review at
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for more price comparison Micro Direct
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Will Wilkinson
I'd second that, in fact I would go further and suggest you want sub
10ms for games and movies. I have used several LCD displays at work, and am just about to switch over for home as the prices have got down to a sensible level. I'll almost certainly be buying from having used them for several years now, the best customer service I've found and good technical advice. I'll be getting one of the 4ms refresh Samsungs, probably the Samsung SM930BF.
HTH
Will '98 300Tdi Defender 110 CSW
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Mother
For what you're intending to use it for, none at all.
If, however, you're doing a lot of print ready artwork and the like*, then yes, there's a fair bit of difference.
To the eye? Well, there's a years worth of debate there, but I'd say 'no', you'll not really notice any difference.
*Digital photography doesn't count ;-)
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Graham G
Do you ever get the feeling you have just opened a can of worms and are going to end up more confused than when you started?
Difference to the eye is the important one I guess. Don't do much detailed graphic work, but do spend a substancial amount of time in front of the computer so it does need to be right.
Basically what I'm after is something that will perform similar or better than my 17'' CRT, take up a fith of the space (blasted thing is huge), have a larger screen size (often working in up to 4 windows at once and it gets difficult to get enough information viewable (either area or size)) and be affordable.
Bulk of my work is on spreadsheets and databases, although I do spend a fair bit of time on the net. Frequently running DVD's or MPEGs both with work and outside it.
All that said, any suggestions of items are greatly recieved.
Graham
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Graham G
Thanks very much, that helps alot.
Am learning fast, but as I said earlier, I want to be sure I'm buying the right thing.
Graham
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Austin Shackles
On or around Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:33:20 +0100, "Graham G" enlightened us thusly:
often...
to be perfectly honest, for every day use of the machine, you can use "thousands of colours" quite happily. As a case in point: take you favourite image software, load a 24-bit JPEG (8-bit colour in 3 channels, R, G and B) and then change your monitor settings from 24-bit to 16-bit or even to 8-bit (assuming PC) or from "millions of colours" to "thousands of colours (on a mac) and note how little difference you see.
8-bit looks a bit rough. But 8-bit is 256 colours total. 16-bit, for average use on screen, is hardly discernible from 24-bit.
the more performance the better for running DVDs etc., but then again, response time is probably more valid than colours. Having said that, I'd go for a full set of colours meself...
My main objection so far is that none of the 17" ones (which are affordable) will run the 1280x960 resolution that I favour. Most 19" will, though.
Nor do I especially like 5:4 resolution (e.g. 1280x1024), as opposed to 4:3
- although that's a purely personal thing.
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Austin Shackles
On or around Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:33:29 +0000 (UTC), "Graham G" enlightened us thusly:
Just to throw another wossname into the pot - the last of the big CRTs are very good for the money if you have the desk-space for it.
Small CRTs have all-but disappeared; but in the 19-21" range there are some good ones still. Competitive on price with the decent large TFTs as well - and cheap TFTs are what they say, cheap, and it tends to show.
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Graham G
Austin Shackles muttered summat about:
Haven't got the room really, thats the idea berhind this as there isn't really much wrong with the CRT I have, just takes up so much room.
This might be the last thing on this. Have pretty much decided on a Iiyama
19" TFT E481S-B ProLite Black/silver, unless anyone says different, as it seems to me to be a really good all rounder and comes with a 'mother' seal of approval ;o) However, the dilemma is where do I buy it... Have found the following online shops of which savastore is the only one I've used. They all have what appears to be the same monitor, but each has different descriptions. Which should I go with?
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Many thanks for your time with this..
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rads
However, the dilemma is where do I buy it... Have found the
I stopped buying from Dabs when they removed the ability to contact them by phone.
Whilst I understand the reasons they have done so, I hope they also understand why I have excercised my freedom of choice in my purchasing decisions!
David
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