these sodding things are heavy to push!

Mar 14, 2009 6 Replies

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m1 17 years ago

Off down to the garage this morning for tea and sarnies. Trundling past loads of parked cars on both sides of the road, only one line of traffic can get thru' at once, when clunk! and no drive, the tw@ing thing dumps me in everybodies way and after wrestling with the two 'box levers for a bit I eventually have to get out and push while they all sit in their cars and bloody watch,,,,,, If I put the main gearbox in a gear all I get is a sound like two cogs are grating and nearly meshing, it makes no difference what position the transfer box is in. I've had the plate off the bottom of the transfer box and the gogs look ok. So, I s'pose it's got to come to bits. Can I get the transfer box off without the gearbox or does it have to come off as one lump? Do I really have to take the floor out like some bloke has happily informed me? The car is a '93 Defender 90 200TDi. Thanks for any input. I'm off to the pub now to grumble into a pint and shout at children.

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William Black 17 years ago

I had that once, it was the universal joint between the drive shaft and the gearbox.

I understand that it's a 'known problem', and costs about a grand to twelve hundred to put right.

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Oily 17 years ago

You can remove the transfer box without the main box from underneath as it's not as heavy in two parts and it may be that the mainshaft splines that drive into the transfer box are knackered but you can check by doing that first. If the main box has got to come out it's easier to get at the bellhousing bolts with the floor removed and it probably will have to come out by the sound of it, much easier to handle in two parts.

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Oily 17 years ago

Bad form I know but check you have no props turning while making the noise, and, if so, check the hub drive plates.

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Dave Liquorice 17 years ago

Oh I had that going up Shap on the M6in the old DII. Clunk but stuck in

5th gear. No amount of gear lever waggling had any effect. Had to put transfer box in neutral to stop the thing always wanting to move unless I kept me foot on the clutch.

Mine would make nice little tinkly clinky noises... It was still under warranty I'm gald to say as the cure was a replacement gearbox. Something to do with a bearing breaking up that then allows one of the shafts to float about inside... Known problem.

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puffernutter 17 years ago

My Defender (200TDi) did that a year or so ago - it was the mainshaft splines that had gone.

Cheers

Peter

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Austin Shackles 17 years ago

On or around Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:43:35 +0000, puffernutter enlightened us thusly:

yeah, on that age motor, I'd put my money (but not a lot, I'm skint) on the gearbox output shaft/T box input gear splines.

Make sure you change both, they WILL both be worn. Don't believe the people who say "oh, it's only the shaft (or gear) that wears. On the one I took apart and put a box in, both sets of splines had almost identical wear.

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