A/C top-up kit result.

Jul 30, 2010 56 Replies

On the 3rd of this month I enquired here about using a kit on my E39.



I'm not suggesting that any of the advice I received from my original was bad. If one can afford it, there's no doubt that having a competent A/C professional do the job is the better way to go.



My system was working but not cooling as well as it should. My guess was that it had simply lost a little gas since it was professionally regassed about 3 years ago.



Looks like I was right. Bought a kit for £30 and used it today, and am well pleased with the result. A/C appears to be as cold as it was when it was regassed properly.:-)



After connecting the hose and guage to the A/C low pressure port and saw the pressure was only down about half a bar or 7psi, I thought I might have wasted my money, but carried on and opened the valve on the hose to allow gas from the can into the system. Guage went from 2 bar to 2.5 bar, but very little gas appeared to come out of the can of gas. It felt almost as heavy as it had before I'd opened the valve, so I presume it needed very little gas, in terms of weight, to top-up the system, but it was obviously enough. Getting back into the car with the A/C running at it's lowest setting, the air coming from the vents was very cold.



Well pleased with result. A significant saving of £40, as the cheapest professional regas I could find locally was £70.



The can of R134a gas supplied with the kit has PAG oil added in case any wonders about the affect that adding pure gas might have on the system. Mike.


toomeys are doing a proper regas for 37.99

the vectra that kwik fit could not do: they regassed it at no charge and said they could not fix it, it was brought to me and it turned out that the clutch relay had a dirty bottom: cleaned and sprayed with de-oxit and away it went!!

Nice price. The only problem is that they're in Essex. I live west of Horsham in West Sussex.

Know any hassle free way of fixing a compressor clutch that rattles all the times it's engaged. Apart from buying a new one? No worse now than it was when I bought the car over 3 years ago, but it's why I mainly only use the climate control for cooling Can't be heard inside the car when driving, but easily heard when the engine is ticking over. Sounds a bit like a slightly noisy timing chain. Mike.

I avoid getting involved in compressor clutches, but I do know that they are shimmed to a close setting, so maybe it needs re-shimming?

Wife paid £40 last week. Plenty around here for £40 inc "come to your house" ones.

The Peeler gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Don't forget how good it is at clearing misted windows on damp days...

Wouldn't external cold air (do they ever get anything else?) coming through the vents have the same effect?

The Peeler gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Nowhere near as effectively.

Aircon doesn't just cool the air, but dries it, too - so the air blowing at the 'screen is warm, bone-dry air. Perfect for clearing misting almost instantly.

The Peeler gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Umm, have you ever owned a car with aircon?

Umm, yes. Have you? Warm aircon sounds like a contradiction in terms.

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Air. Conditioning. Warmer or cooler, whats contradictory about that?

major manufacturers such as Ford have the system set so that air con. operates automatically if max. demist is selected.

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What is "aircon" an abbreviation for? Air *conditioning*. *Not* "air

*cooling*!

It means a system that will allow the air in an environment to be as close to the desired temperature and humidity as possible. It is achieved by being able to heat, cool, dehumidify, and sometimes humidify the air in an environment.

Chris

Yep, clears my screen within 10 seconds.

"Yassir I. Khan-Bughi" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Quite.

The air passing over the aircon evaporator is cooled, yes. But it's then passed over the heater matrix, so can be heated again. It remains dry, though. Presto - warm, dry air. Perfect for clearing the windows.

The Peeler brought next idea :

No, the air with an a/c system is dehumidified. Cooled to dump the moisture out of it, then maybe reheated.

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Really? It takes that long for the compressor clutch to engage on all the Fords I've driven...

HFS does it faster than A/C.

Chris

The HFS is also pretty quick but the single red demist button on the Mondeo sets ; Heat=Max; Fan = Max Speed and A/C on.

That works for me.

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