Black smoke

Oct 18, 2005 29 Replies

Does anyone know if red diesel causes engines to chuck out more black smoke than normal diesel. I watched a guy driving out of our works car park yesterday and his Fiat Ulysses was belching smoke out, now he has been known to use a drop of the red stuff now and again and openly admots to it.



Jim


No. More likely old chip oil not filtered. ;-)

The same engine running on red diesel will produce more smoke. But the smoke could also be caused by several other things.

Moray Cuthill (moray_dot snipped-for-privacy@v21.me.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Hmmm...

I wonder if they could make the smoke red...

Just think... The M25 could look *even more* like this :-

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The message from "Jim Crawford" contains these words:

Drop him in it with Customs and Excise. The traces of it persist for several tankfuls after you use it.

I'll second that, several thousand miles too.

It's unfair that he gets away with using red derv.

Why? Is it a cruder diesel or summat? Red diesel that is.

Malc ( snipped-for-privacy@lightindigooverthere.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Yes. Almost certainly.

Your average tractor doesn't give a toss about low-sulphur and the lubricity requirements of common-rail pumps. It'd run on cowshit if it had to.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hehe, bitterness Dervy?

Tom

No, it's the same as ordinary diesel, anybody that says different hasn't got a clue. The red is just a dye nothing more, nothing less, and doesn't produce more black smoke than normal diesel. Check a few web sites about marine diesels, you'll more info there.

I think a lot of modern your average tractors do have common rail injection. I suspect there's quite a lot of measures on board a modern tractor for making sure the s*it doesn't get as far as the engine, but I bet they're more sensitive to crap fuel than you seem to be making out.

You don't see many proper farmers on Fergies and Fordsons these days m'lad!

Douglas

The message from Douglas Payne contains these words:

Nah, they're all in Lambourghinis.

If you'd care to do some research, you'll find that Lambourghini make tractors, or at least, they used to, and for much longer than they've been making pokey cars, methinks . Farmers are a less fickle clientelle.

running diesel motors on kerosine (28 secs heating oil) and adding a drop of oil to it to lube the injector pump etc. The thing that puts people off doing things illegal, is the chance of getting caught, not the penalty. When was the last time you were stopped and dipped for red diesel or Kerosine in your diesel car ?, I'll wager, never.

( snipped-for-privacy@bigfoot.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Gosh, do they? I wonder if that could, perhaps, be WHY HE MENTIONED LAMBORGHINI?

The message from snipped-for-privacy@bigfoot.com contains these words:

Um - that's why I chose Lambourghini.

I still reckon David Browns should be marketed at Aston Martins. Or at the very least, given model numbers like AM5, AM6, etc.

Don't bother posting to tell me they're no longer linked, I'm not _that_ interested.

Keep on perpetuating that myth.

I used to dip tanks in Lincolnshire and almost everybody we caught, well it was their first time, of course. That dispels the myth that people don't get caught.

Who was that you were working for then? C+E, or Police, or someone else?

Or was it just random research for your website? :-)

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