Ford Puma Driven without Oil!!

Oct 01, 2008 33 Replies

What engine (1.4/1.6/1.7)?

You might want to ask here:

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Chris

Cheers Chris, it's a 1.7. Thanks for the link... Paul

Your options would seem to be:

1) Reconditioned engine if available. 2) New engine from Ford. 3) Used engine from breakers. 4) Sell for parts.

1) my limited experiences with "engine remanufacturers" has been grim to say the least.

2) may not be cost effective.

3) might be a problem due to comparative rarity, and the fact that a Puma engine would be more likely to have been thrashed. (They are also a fairly fragile lump, with more than the usual number of problems.)

I'm guessing you know what's left...

It seems likely that the 1.4 from a Fiesta would have fitted if that's what it had. These would be much more readily available used, which is why I asked what was in it.

As an aside, I've always looked after my vehicles, and taught myself to maintain them. I tried really hard to pass on this mindset to my son, with a spectacular lack of success. He's 30 now, and still continues to abuse his vehicles on a daily basis!

Good luck anyway, let the group know the outcome.

Chris

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It's worth scrap at the moment so about =A3100.

A second hand engine is going to be in the order of =A3250-ish, but most=20 likely of unknown history, plus about the same again to fit at a small=20 local garage. A recon one is going to be about =A31k with fitting.

--=20 Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't=20 looking good either. - Scott Adams

Ok just to be different,

1) not everyone knows about cars engines etc. I think someone who insults a dad trying to help his son deserves a kick in the nuts. Maybe two kicks. If you have a son you HELP him, right. 2) If the red light comes on and you happen to have a arctic tailgating you - you try pulling over in 5 seconds. OT: Ok I know that's not what happened but once I had to run a bmw 325 with flat tyre for over a mile becuause the f****it arctic "professional" driver behind me couldn't tell from the back end weaving about, what had happened and was right on my rear bumper. Yeah maybe he didn't like bmw drivers - heard it before. 3) If it was my engine I'd at least try to find out what has happened

- if only for interests sake. The first thing I'd try is to see if there's any compression there. If the piston(s) are just blobs on a stick - so, ok new engine.

1 - You are right.

3 - That's OK for you, but there are people who don't even know how to open the bonnet, let alone find out what has gone wrong. This means getting someone else to find out, which can be expensive.

2 Is complete bullshit.

Steve

Why are you addressing this reply to me? My reply was intended to reassure the OP that even with help, some folk just won't look after their cars.

What you are suggesting is exactly what I have said I have done!

I kept a car that I should have PX'd to give it to my son when he passed his test. After two days, he let a friend drive it; said "friend" promptly drove it through a hedge.

I arranged for it to be repaired at my cost, the friend being uninsured. Before the work was complete, my son bought an old Escort with no MOT, failed to transfer his insurance over, and within days had a big accident with it, injuring some folk, and writing off both cars.

He will be paying the MIB until he is 72.

He then got an old Fiesta. I did a complete brake rebuild on it, at my expense. He then broke the engine mounts, driving it as teenagers do. I was working a 2-10 shift; it was wintertime. Before work, I bought a set of mounts and fitted them. Outside. In the rain.

Two days later, through excessive speed and poor observation, he managed to spin it backwards into a road sign, writing it off.

Next up was a Honda Accord. After various small, but numerous repairs to this, he then got convicted of DD.

Yes, you help your son. Or daughter. But everyone has their limits!

The owner of the vehicle in question here drove it half a mile to work with the oil light on, and then tried to drive it home, without apparently taking any sort of advice. He also had RAC cover, but didn't think to call them until the engine was shafted. Your interesting anecdote bears very little resemblance to what happened to him...

Even if the engine could be persuaded to run, I wouldn't hold out much hope for its longevity; the 1.7 Puma engine is fairly fragile even if not neglected.

Chris

Chris Whelan gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Have you considered changing your will?

It also seems to suggest that his hazard warning lights weren't working...

[...]

My intention is to die penniless..

:-)

Chris

Chris Whelan gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

It sounds like your crotchfruit's assisting nicely.

LOL!

To be fair, he has settled down now. We get along pretty well, and he was a big help to me a couple of years ago when I was going through a period of ill-health.

He still neglects his vehicles. He doesn't always tell me when things go wrong that are due to his lack of care because I still nag him about it.

Chris

That would be about it.

The Mini that I currently drive is my daily only because my daughter failed to check the oil, and by the time I recovered her from the breakdown, it needed 4 litres to reach the MIN mark on the dipstick...

But that's a £600 car, not a 2 grand car, and a replacement engine only cost me 120 notes. At the time it was quicker for me to buy her another Mini, which is why I got mine back.

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