Really! I thought it was a colloquial phrase not meant to be taken literally, are you some sort of pedant?
So why bother.
And you don't get it do you, everyone repeat EVERYONE who drives speeds at one time or another, the vast majority of drivers speed as a matter of course, a FACT you can observe yourself. Doesn't this tell you something, like perhaps the law could be outdated and in dire need of an overhaul because the public en masse have lost respect for it.
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Then you really want to find ways of expressing yourself more clearly. The meaning of what you said was quite obvious and unambiguous.
Are there several sorts?
Why bother what?
Why bother to argue with you?.............. Why not?
Prove it.
Prove it.
Then put your efforts into getting the law changed. Enforcing a law is never wrong. However I suspect you would have little regard for the speed limit whatever it was set at. I'll bet that you think you are the best person to decide how fast you can travel safely.
Alternativly you could get a grasp of some colloquial expressions.
Not being one I wouldn't know but I'm sure you will be able to enlighten me.
There seem little point in you responding, first you rubbish the entire reply then go on to respond to the points made, seems futile to me.
The question you pose is only one you can answer
Easy, by observation of any UK motorway on any day of the week, congestion aside, the behaviour I mention is apparant for all to see.
See above, to disallow this is to be in total denial of the fact, if you are in denial then you have a problem.
I'll leave that to the knights in shining white armour (another colloquial phrase just in case you take that literally as well). Life is too short. Enforcing a law is
Crap, Laws become outdated, AIUI policemen are not allowed to work on Sundays, care to enforce that law?
However I suspect you would have little regard for the
An extrapolation on your part taken from no evidence except your predjudices.
I'll bet that you think you are the
I prefer to take my own decisions as to what is safe for me, my family and those around me (including the general public) I don't need a bunch of muppets (another colloquial phrase) to decide for me, heap on me as much guidance and advice as you can and I will take it on board but tell me I can't (especially if what you say I consider wrong) then you have no hope whatsoever of getting my cooperation. Policing is by consent and the consent for the outdated speeding laws is slowly being withdrawn.
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Yeah, whatever. The meaning was obvious, regardless of what you are now trying to reinterpret you comment as.
Sorry, your observations do not constitute proof. I challenge you to prove that EVERYONE is speeding.
Still no proof then? Come back when you have it.
What you mean is you will continue to bleat about enforcement rather than try and change the laws you think are unfair.
Where did you get that from?
An extrapolation yes, but based on your stated attitude to the law.
So taking it a step further, do you think that everyone is capable of deciding what is safe?
It may be slowly withdrawn by some like yourself but policing is for the benefit of everyone, not just drivers.
Why then did so many Swiss vote for the fiercely nationalist SVP? As far as I remember, Mr Blocher was even against Switzerland joining the United Nations ...
Christian
If someone has a certain opinion, why do many people think just the contrary?
The Swiss "Betonkonsens" seems to be breaking apart now, the country is getting increasingly split between Europhiles and Neutralists.
JS
You have lost the argument and you are just trying to avoid conceding to it.
Resorting to the cliché "it's the law" is the last hiding place of the man who has run out of arguments.
You'll be telling us to think of the chiiiildren next.
If you have a non-UK license the matter cannot be dealt with by a fixed penalty, despite it being offered to begin with. My photocopy of the license was returned with a note that the matter will be dealt with by a court. Sure enough, the case is in December.
I will send them a photocopy again, plead guilty by post and ask for the penalty not to be higher than what it would have been if the fixed penalty had been accepted.
I don't know what happens with penalty points though. The last time I had a disagreement with the law was in '98 where months after the case (also by post) I received a note saying that I had been fined £40 (has inflation really amounted to 50% in 5 years or am I being cynical?) and no mention of points. I even paid by credit card over the phone.
If you can prove that you live in Switzerland and supply a swiss address you're likely to get away with it. It is worth pursuing this route. E.g. say my brother (who lives outside the UK) is visiting me in the UK and drives my UK-registered car. As long as he is insured to drive the car at the time, I am not liable for any offences he might commit and his case would never be followed up abroad. (The same time and effort can be spent chasing some other pood sods locally who will give in to extortion and pay up the fixed penalty under the threat of court action.)
James, could you tell the cops I live in Switzerland too? See OT: Speed camera above : )
go away dick head.
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LOL, I rest my case M'lud.
Stuart.
ps. I promised myself I wouldn't feed them.....damn my irresoluteness. ; )
Now that's twice in one post that you have said that I have lost the argument but without stating why and without putting forward an argument yourself. I suspect that you are not capable of formulating a reasoned argument. At least NM made the effort.
yes you proved you are one, go troll your anti law views somewhere else
And so it panned out that the following script was sculpted by none other than Dag ?ien:
And if the doctor decides you're not fit enough to drive, bye bye DL. Which I think is a reasonable policy, especially in Europe where there is halfway reasonable public transportation provision.
Yes.
No.
I would stop and make them pick it up ( if it was safe)
No.
many have.
Apartheid? Tattoing certain classes of people? Seperating poor families and making them in slave like conditions? Arresting people for sheltering escaped slaves? Was it right to enforce those laws?
Yes, it was the law that was wrong.
Ten years ago, I was doing a lot of work with some Italian companies. Several of the Italians (not living or working in the UK) had their cars registered and MoT'ed in the UK, as it was very much cheaper to get that done here than it was in Italy (I think Italy was more than 4 times the price), including driving over once a year for the MoT test and tax certificate.
God give it a rest you jerk!
Just to clarify this ..... you say it was right to enforce those laws?
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